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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"You'll never own another computer cheaper than $500"

Chinese tech firms produce high end computers for less than $500

"SANCTION! TARIFF! EMBARGO!"

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You will never own an EV for under $80k

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

if you buy slightly used, you are doing something wrong paying more than 15-20k.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

The used car market imploded when vehicle production dried up after 2008

[–] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

The prices for tech on Taobao in China and in the US are nearly identical for the vast majority of tech items. So much is excluded from the tariffs that it's silly they even exist on paper. There are indeed some newer items only available there, but they're rarely on the affordable end of pricing.

Laptops and computer hardware in particular surprise me. I was hoping to get a new Huawei or Xiaomi laptop the last time I was in China since I got my parents a Huawei I've been jealous of in the US several years before they were banned. Absolutely nothing I could find on Taobao or in store was comparable value even to computers from Dell/HP/Lenovo.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

I have a Huawei watch, and I think it's great, especially for the price. I guess you can make quality, affordable products when you're subsidised by the state.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It's not actually the "older hardware" that's responsible for security vulnerabilities, it's Microsoft chosing to end support for Windows 10.

That "older" hardware capable of running Windows 10 is more than capable of running any Linux distro which will keep on getting security updates for a long while (and you can just upgrade it again if that stops as Linux is nowhere as hardware demanding as Windows, especially the latest, Electron + AI, Windows).

For people who just use their PC for Office software, e-mail and browsing - who are the ones getting entry level PCs - hardware has been more than powerfull enough for 2 decades, and it's only Windows bloatware having grown to use the available computing power that has forced people to upgrade the hardware.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Also distros aren't the final step of availability.
There are forks like elks linux runnable with 256Kb RAM.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Oh, yeah.

I'm just thinking the more well known stuff with the "fancier" desktops and shipped with applications like LibreOffice and Firefox which are probably closer to familiar and don't look like a step back for Windows and Mac users.

If you really want to extend the life of your hardware to the max, well, whilst Linux has discontinued support for 486 and Pentium processors last year, any hardware newer than that (so, around 30 years or less) will still run the latest kernel and as you mentioned there are distros targeting machines with very little RAM and HDD space.

[–] please_send_me_nudes_girl 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People believe it, I couldn't even convince my own father. He rather spend 600 bucks for a new laptop, for no reason.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

My hope is that the crazy RAM and HDD/SDD prices and hence crazy prices for new PCs will push more people to try Linux.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Access to the information superhighway will be relegated to only those who can afford a yacht. /s

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Full circle back to the first days of the internet that only universities and the rich could use. Also high storage prices again when we've had it dirt cheap for decades.

Nothing new.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

the majority of people access the internet on their phones or smart devices. almost exclusively.

desktop computer internet is going the way of the doh doh in terms of traffic. it's for nerds.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Crazy isn't it!

I stand by, phones are for consuming, computers are for creation. Of course humans thirst for consuming is unending, like an insatiable Godzilla.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah well i'm a social pariah for not being a phone person. I'm over here like it's 2002 consuming most of my internet on a desktop, not even a laptop! I spend maybe 15m a day on my phone.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago

Awesome. I do much as I can to live in 2003 (mostly using CRTs, watching my vhs tapes, playing dreamcast, ha!)

I do like my phone for on the go, but I've done all I can do de crapify it. Excited to get a pixel and graphene next year.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 148 points 2 days ago (13 children)

The new entry-level PC will be a cloud-based thin client subsidized by collecting every bit of data it can about you directly on a Microslop server where you will have zero user choice.

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're not allowed to say 'Microslop' it's ILLEGAL!!!

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Not now clippy... not now.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm this close to just quitting society and becoming Amish or something. Technology is just getting worse and worse. Maybe I could be Amish but instead of being locked in the 1800s I just stay in like 2007 when technology was fun

[–] TheHighRoad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Technology keeps getting better and better; it is capitalism that keeps getting worse and worse.

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[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 76 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, I think one of the reasons the AI bubble hasn't popped yet is because it's being weaponized to remove consumer hardware from the market entirely. These companies want as much processing done on the cloud as possible so that they can control, monitor and mine data from every user.

[–] unit327@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

They aren't weaponizing anything against consumers. They don't care about consumers anymore, they are irrelevant.

They think if they just spend more money they will win the AGI race and therefore the whole economy forever. Consumers don't factor into it at all.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago

Only due to basically one reason - oligopolies.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Saving for my kids college went out the window.

Saving for my kids computers now

[–] circuitfarmer 87 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Along with anything else costing less than $500.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 5 points 1 day ago

Damn that joke becomes less and less funny each year

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[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I predict this research firm will not exist by 2030

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Depends on how many corporations they can supply favorable polls to.

[–] Ghostie@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Before I’d say building your own can be more cost effective, but I can’t even say that now with those RAM and GPU prices.

[–] texture@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

yeah prebuilts are cheaper now, sadly

[–] ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope that they just fail in their half-assed attempts and the prices fall again.

[–] Ghostie@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Me too or supply rises to met demand with new companies, which can also lower the price. But I mostly want AI to fail.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Does anyone know how difficult it is to swap keyboards on ThinkPads? I wanna get one used but the problem is, most of them don't have US keyboards since I live in Japan.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I can't speak to the ease of the swap, but I do know lenovo is super great for letting you order parts.

https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/parts-lookup

I had to swap out the cooling on one of our newer legions at work and their parts game is on point.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

If ThinkPad, easy. If IdeaPad, watch out, might not be viable.

It's amazing how good Lenovo is about ThinkPad, and how crap they are about IdeaPad.

[–] greyscale 4 points 1 day ago

Usually trivial to swap a keyboard, just gotta find the japan Lenovo FRU for the keyboard and order it. Sometimes you gotta buy the upper plastic too if the shape is different. If you have a model in mind I can find you the FRU and guide if you want.

[–] chonomaiwokurae@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
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