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In recent years, the genre has won a lot of new followers and got lots of praise for its accomplishments. They're as popular as ever and everyone wants a piece of the cake. New games are released several times a year with varying degrees of quality. In discussing the genre, some people feel overwhelmed by the amount of new games entering the genre and some feel burnt out or fatigued.

I definitely get that thought and could see myself also being annoyed somewhat by the sheer volume of soulslikes released. But I don't think I'm fatigued per se. If a title interests me, I'll give it a try - if it doesn't, I don't. I don't feel the pressure of playing everything new and shiny as I did a few years ago.

Where do you stand on this? Do you ever feel pressured to play a game because it's new and talked about a lot? Or maybe because it's another entry in the genre and you don't want to miss out?

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[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago

no but I only really play the ones made by FromSoftware themselves. anything else is just sparkling zelda.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 12 points 1 day ago

I get fatigued if I play too many Soulslikes in a row, for certain. Overcoming a challenge is fun for a bit, but it's also exhausting and eventually I get tired of dying over and over and feeling like I am the worst gamer on earth. I think something like 1-2 Soulslikes per year is the correct balance for me.

[–] GrantUsEyes@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

No, and gameplay wise I find very few games outside the genre/adjacent genres as satisfactory, or well rounded across all my personal enjoyment metrics. it's kind of a pain.

The current output and wide spread adoption of soulslike mechanics feels like a lot... Yes , but personally I've never felt pressured to constantly try new stuff (maybe with NR recently a little) . I'm patient and I need to feel "The Call" ^TM^ so to speak.

I've been gaming a lot more in recent years and my current binge shows no sign of stopping; but there are games that I'll still wait a good while before getting into, like Khazan, or the Nioh franchise for example. I'll get to them, eventually.

[–] MissingInteger@lemmy.zip 3 points 22 hours ago

I've been playing Souls games almost exclusively for over a year, and I'm still having fun, so I'm definitely not fatigued yet. And even if I don't want to (re)play another Soulslike anymore, than I'm simply going to play something else.

New releases generally don't interest me; I have yet to buy or play a Souls-like game at release. If a new game releases that interests me, Soulslike or not, I'm bookmarking it and remembering it in 2 to 40 months.

[–] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not exactly fatigue. It's just that most of the titles I see coming out reek of the same "front page of Steam" scent that I'm not interested in. Too shiny, too samey.

While I love my Fromsouls, there are other genres competing for their place on my most favourite list, and are delivering regularly.

Nightreign looks alright but doesn't particularly interest me at full price. Duskbloods is an immediate write-off thanks to exclusivity. I'm waiting for Miyazaki and co. to win me back again.

Btw I got Bloodborne on shadPS4 working now, so that's my "new" soulslike to look forward to.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have bad soulslike fatigue, and incel execs making incel statements so incels buy their games fatigue. Fuck Lords of the Fallen. If you need an obscure soulslike Hellpoint has everything you're after. If its still tiring go grab something entirely different like Sword of the Sea to cleanse your pallete.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago

💀 yea, definitely on the same page as you regarding Lords of the Fallen

Thanks for the recommendations!

[–] e0qdk@reddthat.com 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I've been playing through soulslike games at a rate of about one of them every year or two -- last year being an exception due to Silksong's release where I played both DS3 and Silksong.

The only soulslike games left on my radar that seem like they might be interesting to me are Sekiro (which I have a feeling I will bounce off of), Elden Ring, and maybe Lies of P. I've already seen a playthrough of Bloodborne but would try it too -- if it ever gets a PC release...

[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The best advice I can give for Sekiro is to learn the parry mechanic. You'll get through the game for a while without it, but there is a part that forces you to learn it.

Once you master the parry it becomes the easiest soulslike.

I wouldn't count on a Bloodborne release on PC. It looks like PlayStation is pulling back on PC ports. You can run an emulated version quite well though.

[–] e0qdk@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Yeah, I've never been good at the parry mechanics in any of the Dark Souls games which is why I expect I'll bounce off Sekiro. Maybe it'll "click" for me eventually, like I've heard some people say -- will have to see when I get around to it.

Not really expecting a BB release, but sometimes crazy things happen if I wait long enough. We got FF7 on GOG after all. It could happen some day. Maybe. :p

None of the other soulslike games that have come out have even really registered in my brain so my backlog of "I should play this" isn't too long for this genre.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago

As others have said, traditional parries in ER or DS are much more difficult to pull off timing-wise compared to Sekiro. There's definitely a learning curve and it takes some getting used to. Ultimately, it's not too hard to get the hang of. It's mostly just memorising attacks patterns and knowing what you have at your disposal to answer a given attack

[–] platypode@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Sekiro is far and away my favorite FromSoft game. I think people bounce off because they expect it to be more like the classic souls experience than it is; there are three main differences IMO that you need to know to have a good time:

  • Health doesn’t matter. Breaking posture, not removing hp, is the goal of each fight; damage is only useful because it slows enemy posture recovery and deals posture damage too.
  • Parrying is (functionally speaking) attacking. Every parry does posture damage, and it’s often better to parry off the whole combo rather than interrupt it at the first opportunity with an attack
  • HOLD THE PARRY BUTTON. In DS, the parry is a one tap action. In Sekiro, you get something like a full .5s of parry frames as long as you hold the parry button. Understanding this mechanic makes the game much, much easier.
[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Like I'm sure you've heard, Sekiro is more of a rhythm game than anything else and that is true. The windows are fairly forgiving for the parry. I will say my first attempted playthrough ended up with me dropping the game for a few months. After 100% the other From games I made it my mission to beat Sekiro and after a certain amount of time it clicked and became way easier.

[–] GunValkyrie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Check out emulating bloodborne. It's completely playable at 60fps with a decent PC.

[–] fox@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

I definitely needed two or three tries to figure out Sekiro. Worthwhile though since if you can get the combat to click in your brain it's among the best melee games I've played

Definitely no personal fatigue. It's a genre I dont feel moved by in the slightest. I will say there is a bit of observer fatigue, in the sense that the obsession with the genre is annoying and distracting. Wading through all the discussion is cumbersome and the weird "bro-ness" of it all (for lack of a better phrase) is super silly. It feels incredibly youthful, and I mean that to say inexperienced adult-aged children trying to prove how cool they think they are, is super off putting. But it's by no means something the genre owns or is responsible for. Just a symptom of the larger issue of insecure people latching onto things. And I dont think there is a solution as long as 20 year olds exist lol but no, I dont feel pressure to play anything regardless of genre or popularity. That only mattered when I was 12.

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As a genre, I have felt overwhelmed and disinterested by the constant stream of releases for a decade now. Too much of it is middling-to-bad.

As individual games, I've been playing DS2, DS3, or Elden Ring at least once a week since 2014.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago

Any "new" releases that piqued your interest?

[–] fox@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

The things that I like about souls games have very little to do with the "lose your shit when you die lmao" core mechanic and more with the exploration and variety. Love that Elden Ring is gargantuan and has a bajillion enemies and weapons. Dark Souls, same deal, dig the variety, dig the atmosphere.

[–] Berttheduck@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

For me it depends entirely on my mood coming into gaming. I need to be in the right mindset to bash my head against a boss or level for a few hours to enjoy souls likes. Lately with life stuff I've not been in that mood. I still haven't finished Elden Ring despite really enjoying it and having 2 characters started. So I guess I do have some souls fatigue but it's more like I'm fatigued and can't play souls likes rather than I'm fed up of the games.

[–] villainy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Variety is the spice of life. I'm usually "fatigued" by any given genre after playing any game to completion, so I play something different next!

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

No. I still wanna play the genre, I am just bored of the existing material I've played thousands of hours of; especially the ones that aren't as good. I want more Fromsoft and Round8 games. Too many games call themselves soulslikes but barely are like Dark Souls. Just becsuse you have respawning enemies and dodging, doesn't mean your game is gonna kick ass.

[–] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Dude, I'm so looking forward to what Round8 is cooking up with the LoP sequel

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 3 points 1 day ago

Holy shit a new user profile picture. I barely even recognised you!

[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

If the game is quality enough I'll play it.