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The updated Denza Z9 GT can drive up to 1036 km (644 miles) on a single charge, the Chinese automaker says.

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[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 78 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The american auto industry isn't even attempting to keep pace. They're just pretending the EV shift isn't happening and ICE engines will last forever.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago

I don't want to bail them out next time

[–] PrimeErective@startrek.website -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Maybe they were using the GPS satellites to find an ATM machine, but couldn't remember their PIN number

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I can't just say ICE with everything going on right now.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's okay to just say Combustion Engine or IC Engine. It takes a few seconds more to type but it removes all confusion.

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 2 points 1 day ago

My thumbs will fall off.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ICE won't last forever, that much is true; not even if it's about engines.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What if we find a way to power vehicles with solidified water? Some sort of Cold Fission.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

I was just making a joke about an ICE powered engine. IE Solidified water.

But hey, maybe it could be some sort of reverse steam.engine where the cold air falls down over the turbine instead hot steam rising.

[–] zergtoshi@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Would you be interested in learning about JWT tokens?

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Goddamn. Wish we could get BYD in the US, maybe it would finally get our domestic automakers off their fuckin asses and encourage them to make affordable vehicles / literally anything other than full-size SUVs and mall crawlers (luxury pickup trucks)

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

...which is exactly why you can't have 'em!

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I've seen a dozen or so BYDs on Phoenix streets the past couple years.

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's probably possible to import from ~~Canada and/or~~ Mexico, though I imagine registering and insuring them is a hassle.

Edit: Turns out they're not available in Canada yet

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I thought I had read somewhere that Canada was going to allow like 50k chinese EVs to be sold each year starting this year or something along those lines

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Hasn't happened yet.

Canada buys 2 million cars a year, so 50K is fuck all.

[–] redbrick@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

really?!? Pics or it didn't happen. :-)

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People driving up from Mexico.

[–] redbrick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

still need pics... I understand they are not permitted in US.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean I'll import one from Canada if that's all it takes

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You will pay a stupid amount of tariffs to own a car with no parts or service support.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah but there is a chance even with the tariffs its more affordable.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US industry isn’t actually trying to make better EVs anymore.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

They are, but only because Detroit consultants are reverse engineering Chinese EVs.

Detroit did the same thing with early VWs, then Hondas, but apparently they learned fuck all.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

644 miles I assume is at 100%, so longevity charging (80%) is 515 miles. That’s a really “take your EV car on a long trip” or “park it at the airport for several days” kind of charge. EV batteries can lose 1-2%/day, so you could feasibly leave it somewhere for a while when you get 515 miles range.

Man, really wished we had something like that at a reasonable cost in the US. I travel for work and have to leave my car idle for long periods, no EV charger in sight. Range like that would be perfect.

Edit: I don’t have an EV. The 1-2% is reported by industry reporters that state that battery conditioning, management, video systems, and system telemetry can consume up to 1-2% per day.

[–] Steve@communick.news 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

“park it at the airport for several days” kind of charge. EV batteries can lose 1-2%/day

They really shouldn't. If yours does, something's wrong. You should take it in.

I specifically left mine in an airport parking lot for a week. The high voltage main battery didn't loose even 1%.

The basic internal electronics are powered by an old school 12v battery. It should be able to keep the parked car alive for a few weeks at least. Even if the 12v dies, a simple "jump start" from any other car will let you turn it on again and get home. Just like in an ICE car, the 12v battery will charge while you're driving.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some of the cars with parking surveillance can use a lot of electricity when parked in a busier area with a lot of movement

[–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That'll just kill the 12v faster. Won't change with the range of the high volt battery.

[–] PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The main battery will have to charge the 12v battery once the latter gets low enough though

[–] Steve@communick.news 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That won't happen while the car is parked. The 12v will just die like I said, and you'll need a jump start.

When you start the car and activate the high volt battery it will power the 12v system, including charging the 12v battery. But only once you start the car.

[–] Xbeam@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have an Ionic 6. The main battery keeps the 12 volt properly charged while parked. It doesn't just let it die.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 1 day ago

Interesting. When I looked into how my 5 works. I was read it was as as I described.

I've only had it 6 months now. And it only sat parked and unplugged for an extended time, the once at the airport. So I've never really tested directly.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

lose 1-2%/day

Um, there’s something wrong with your car. I can leave mine for almost a week at times and the milage is still the same as when I charged it and unplugged it.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

644 miles means you could make it from Boston to Pittsburgh, San Francisco to San Diego, or London to Hanover with one charge... and plenty left over.

😔

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

Nyc to dc, then dc to nyc, and then nyc to dc yet again all on a single charge

I was going to say, the Sacramento to Portland I do regularly is just under 600 miles

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

BYD leaving Tesla in the dust

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Tesla has always been behind in battery tech. They spent very little in R&D, like typical US companies.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

+22.53km from the last record.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hope the evolution of battery capacity keeps up, so one day we can buy a car that is simply pre-charged for 10000 km or more.

The increase from 100 to 1000 came about in a decade. I wonder what the limitations are.

Meanwhile the fuel efficiency for combustion engines seems to have maxed out decades ago.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Try using you brain...do you really want to carry around a gigawatt of potential energy?

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 7 points 1 day ago

Hell yes I would.

A glass of water contains potential untapped energy of about 6 billion gigawatts. It's hardly dangerous.

I think the more crazy thing is to have a fucking bonfire running on gasoline in a metal box.

Most people would probably think you're a madman if you ignite a can of fuel just for LOLs. But they still do that every time they drive to work and back.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What's that range after 20 years of daily use?