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[–] rem26_art@fedia.io 42 points 4 days ago (1 children)

that chart in the article showing how Raytheon's stock price jumped up right after we learned about that girl's school was bombed is just so sickening

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago

I've been incredibly frustrated to hear and read articles that boil down to "We bombed another country again, here's what it's doing to stock prices".

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

While piece leads with depravity of school attack, and I'd add hospitals and leadership assassination, understand the geopolitics that the US is ruled by Israel first mandate, and Israel wants only destruction. Not a surrender and peace. Just as a nuclear deal with Iran would have entitled it to an opinion on Israel actions. Cruelty and illegality is the insurance to guarantee a unified angry Iran who'se only choice is to fight back. This is 100% the plan, and all idiocy of not understanding a plan is idiocy looking at the US to promote some humanist/liberal peace outcome instead of serving Israel's demonism.

All US allies have their political capital and media as atlanticist/zionist supremacist propagandizers. As such, they are more likely to equivocate Iran's self defense actions instead of strong condemnation of Zionist demonism, and threatening of rupturing of ties with Zionist allies to motivate a quick ceasefire. Waiting for Atlanticist/Zionist supremacist media to help sell demonism to the people of US colonies, is simply gaslighting concerns about demonic evil that will be applied to them all directly in the future.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

while a specific demarcation line between human selfishness and demonism is fluid within personal conscience, most experts might agree that wanton mass murder and destruction for purposes of facilitating less opposition to future mass murder and destruction for wanton theft of the land of the murdered, can cross the lines of civilized human-considerate policy discussions, such that a demonic label is unanimously appropriate.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (7 children)

The kinds of atrocities you describe are violent imperialist and colonial policies. The word "demonic" is dehumanizing religious language used by nutjobs, bible-thumpers and MAGAts. It is especially problematic when used to describe a jewish institution (even if that institution is a genocidal apartheid state), due to the long tradition of antisemitism in Canada (we are both users at lemmy.ca I see) and the west in general.

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[–] sveltecider@lemmy.ca 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Perhaps one of the most pointless wars in recent memory.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Most the the recent pointless wars all have one thing in common.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Religion + authoritarianism

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago

And dat black, sticky-icky!

[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)
[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Fuck no, some wars are entirely needed like the haitian revolution, or really any war fought against colonisation... Imagine if the chinese people hadn't fought against imperialism, or the russian people against tsarism

[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It's the Haitian revolution, not the Haitian war. Rising against your masters isn't waging war, and fuck the language that conflates those two things. Defending yourself from invaders isn't waging war. The invaders are the ones waging war, and thus war is pointless.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If raising an army and establishing a nation to fight another army defending it's nation is not what war is then I don't know what your definition is

[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What event are you referring to?

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (7 children)

really any war fought against colonisation... Imagine if the chinese people hadn't fought against imperialism, or the russian people against tsarism

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

And bombing of a girls school is a war CRIME. There is a subtle difference.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But it's what ~~Americans~~ Israel wants!

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 6 points 4 days ago

Queen Ghislaine wants!

[–] gabriell_pro@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

That BAAL statue....

I think we should just get it out of the way and call it The Iran Genocide. We all know that's where this is going.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 6 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Iran's government needed toppling, but the ends do not justify the means. How you do something is just as important as what you're doing, and this is being done in a horrible, unjustifiable way for deeply nefarious reasons, and the fact that some sort of good may come of it (though that remains yet to be seen) does not excuse the fact that most of it is really, really bad.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Iran’s government needed toppling,

Fun fact: The conservative religious state was formed when the US wouldn't let go of proxy control of the country and it led to a revolution from US-hating hardliners and fundamentalists who overthrew the Shah and started a revolution in 1979. Whether or not the US's installation of the Shah in the 50's led to this outcome can be debated, but the fact is the US and Europe got really concerned that Iran was going to start managing their own oil and the oil around the region. (Iran was basically the center of the Middle East for a long time, and they could have easily risen to a first-world, progressive super-power if they had control over their own resources and elections.)

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Iran’s government needed toppling

by whom?

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There will be no good from this.. there's no justification for killing thousands and thousands of innocent civilians.

This will be just like the Palestinian genocide.

There's no plan other than bomb and kill.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago (13 children)

What is this imperialist trash doing in an ostensibly "progressive" com?

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[–] expr@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago

No, countries should not go around invading other countries to effect regime change, regardless of how evil the leadership of that country may be. Change must necessarily come from the people, not foreign interests acting first and foremost for themselves. Time and time again toppling regimes has been the justification used to engage in wanton death and destruction, all the while being a pretense for something else. Just no. It needs to fucking stop.

[–] podian@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago

With transparency and plans for transitioning out of violence after success/phases

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