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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Words mean what society wants them to mean, and if society insists on misusing them, they become meaningless.

That's to say fuck that, go pollute the semantics around state propaganda. Fox news is a terrorist organization.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Words mean what society wants them to mean, and if society insists on misusing them, they become meaningless.

If society insists on it being something other than what it was originally, it is not meaningless. It just means the meaning has changed.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Mean is not a real word anymore.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I remember reading a while back that when Reagan was trying to define terrorism that he was originally presented with a definition that would also hold states accountable. He told them to go back and change it to ensure states could not be defined as terrorists.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Well, you are free to undo Reagan's wishes.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 14 points 2 days ago

That font and color are terrorists.

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Terrorism means doing bad things to normal people for political or religious reasons. I can’t really figure out why you wouldn’t call the OKC bombing or the Tokyo subway sarin attack or the Rajneeshpuram salmonella attack or the Dawson’s Field hijackings or the Toronto van attack terrorism just because the Minneapolis ICE raids are also terrorism. I don’t see any concession of terminology here at fucking all and I’m really curious to see how you justify that. The Weather Underground were terrorists responding to the FBI’s terrorism (among others).

Is your argument that since the DoJ doesn’t think white supremacists like the ones that almost blew up a community in Garden City are terrorists anymore that those fuckers aren’t terrorists anymore? Or is it that because I want to call ICE terrorists I’m not allowed to call the Madrid train bombers terrorists anymore?

I truly do not understand this perspective.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, it's a stupid hot take.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 days ago

I've recently made it my mission to object any time anyone uses the word terrorism for non-state actors. It's very upsetting for people lol

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Wait, are they implying that labeling ICE a terrorist organization doesn't undermine it's authority or that of the people who endorse it?

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

The state's use of the designation of 'terrorism' as a weapon is not strengthened by emphasizing a value-neutral definition, no more than the use of the word 'crime' or 'war'.