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[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

"... When oil prices go up, we make a lot of money." -The Guy, who OP obviously is.

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

Nope, just an EV owner tired of breathing in diesel fumes.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago
[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 85 points 1 day ago (5 children)

You know whose hurt by high prices? Poor people. Guess whose not hurt by them? Rich people.

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

You know who could hurt rich people? Poor people.

[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

You know who hurt people? Hurt people.

The cycle doesn't end unless you end it. Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

You know how hurt people? Greedy rich people. It seemed fitting when they dragged Mussolini through the streets.

[–] kooky194@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Sure there are infinitely more people who suffer from this than people who benefit.

But people have a limited amount of energy to do things or even think. I believe with people who actually have to work for a living, most of the energy goes towards immediate necessities: the daily tasks, working, getting food on the table, paying bills etc. A huge amount of energy and even time is consumed by stress alone that results from living like this. The tiny amount of energy and time people have for passions and socialising are probably spent on those or resting, or just escapism.

How can people living and feeling like this actually change things ? I'd assume massive systemic change needs consistent mass movements.

People would need to have time and energy to think and act. We'd also need willingness to do those things. It feels like not thinking and not acting consumes less energy and time, and therefore is the more likely choice.

If it is possible to change things for the better for the vast majority of people, why aren't they changing ?

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 6 points 18 hours ago

I'm hoping some of the poor people start to realize how dependent they are on gas though. They've been too comfortable with subsidized gas for too long, with us taxpayers all paying to lower gas prices artificially. It's time they notice and start thinking that maybe it's time to think about carpooling or buying smaller cars.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

A lot of people in the US still have states that don't allow mail-in voting, and can't get off work to vote. Those people are poor.

A lot of poor people voted against this. Didn't matter- they still got it.

They're going to suffer heavily. We can all try to do what we can to reduce the use of fossil fuels, but consumers have not had enough power to do anything meaningful at any point in my lifetime.

Rich people will still technically be affected, but yeah they aren't going to go hungry.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago (53 children)

Exactly. Based on this, and based on OP's other responses, OP is basically saying "I want poor people to suffer so rich people can make more money" (off of new car sales with more efficient engines, or electric).

So my question for them is: is the income divide not great enough? If not, when will it be?

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 19 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

oil prices effect food prices and prices of anything made with petroleum like soap, nylon, plastics, fertilizers.

anything that has to travel from point a to point b uses petroleum.

but i get it. some people don't have any skin in any game at all.

to them this is funny and watching it accelerate is a funny

[–] stoly@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago

Affect

Effect means to take some action

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bring it, my preferred ride is a bicycle. I am usually bummed when I have to drive even though I have a fun car with manual and AWD.

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[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think people moving to EVs is great, but if you absolutely need to get a car, the more economical and environmentally friendly option is to purchase a second hand vehicle regardless if it's electric or petrol based. Everyone suddenly switching to an EV would cause a catastrophic amount of waste to accrue. Second hand evs are also more expensive than second hand petrol cars AND are more likely to have problems. EV adoption will be gradual, but punishing the struggling working class for daring to use what they can afford AND not throwing working vehicles into the trash is pretty ignorant in my opinion.

[–] invertedspear@lemmy.zip 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Have any data to back up second hand EVs being less reliable than second hand gas cars? Everything I’ve personally experienced is that as long as the battery is liquid cooled, they’re practically maintenance free.

[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't have any data on me to be honest, most of what I hear is based on people I know purchasing second hand EVs, and from what I know of EVs. They suffer from battery degradation which right now is an expensive swap, and charger compatibility is heavily dependent on infrastructure that takes forever to roll out where I am. Internal combustion engines will run great even after 150,000 kms, whereas conventional electric cars and even hybrids show degradation at 80,000 on a few models.

Newer EVs likely have less of these problems, but when I talk of purchasing second hand, I'm talking cars that are 10+ years old.

[–] invertedspear@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That makes sense. 10+ years ago many models didn’t liquid cool the battery which is what lead to the degradation. Anything in the last 5 years on the used market is much more likely to have no issues.

[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

That's good to know, that means in the next 5 years, EVs will be as practical to purchase (used) as ICE cars are.

[–] UsernameHere@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

We will be facing extinction by the end of the century if we don’t stop putting greenhouse gases into the stratosphere today.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pretty stupid take really.

Fuel isn't just for people to put in their cars and drive to the shops.

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