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I have several disorders which are located inside of the brain (which obviously includes autism, hence me posting here). I dislike calling myself "neurodivergent" for many reasons. For one, people use this term as a replacement word for autism, and I have many conditions besides autism.

For example, I'll see posts saying, "neurodivergent people sre more likely to do XYZ." There are so many disorders which fall under the neurodivergent umbrella that it isn't humanly possible for neurodivergent people to be more likely to say or do something than other folks; just say autistic in this context.

I also find that my personal experience gets watered down by calling myself neurodivergent; it feels like a modern version of being called special. I have several conditions which fall under different categories; psychiatric, neurological, and neurodevelopmental. To call all of that just neurodivergent is not very specific and doesn't tell a person what my needs are (plus, they'll just assume I'm autistic).

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I also find that my personal experience gets watered down by calling myself neurodivergent; it feels like a modern version of being called special. I have several conditions

Aah so you're upset that you're not called "extra special", got it.

A person with cancer has an illness. Someone with autism is neurodivergent. Just how words work. Some are specific and others are broader. Water is a liquid. But not all liquids are water. Spaghetti is pasta, but not all pasta is spaghetti. Autism is part of neurodivergence, but not all neurodivergence is autism.

Also neurodevelopmental issues are part of neurology. Listing those two side by side is like saying "today I drank liquids, then I drank water, then I had pasta and some spaghetti."

[–] floralmortal@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I prefer to be called disabled or neurodisabled, rather than neurodivergent. "Neurodivergent" doesn't actually communicate jack shit because there are so many people who say they aren't disabled but identify as neurodivergent. Also, like I said, people will also just assume I'm autistic, which isn't what I want.

While my autism sucks, it isn't my most severe condition. Nobody really cares about the neurodivergent movement if autism isn't the main character in absolutely everything. Sometimes, it feels like my autism is all anybody really cares about.

If I show symptoms of my other conditions, I'm suddenly "too much."

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You can prefer being called whatever. It won't change medical or syntactical facts. But yeah, clearly I was right that you hate that others are being called "special" and you need to be "extra special."

people will also just assume I'm autistic, which isn't what I want.

Yeah, ppl are fucking stupid. Just like you are.

"Uh, I'll have a plate of spaghetti and pasta pls."

I can promise you I have more illnesses, both mental and physical than you, and while the doctors aren't even doing what my country's laws require of them, nor being even semi-fucking literate most times, I don't go crying about how I'm not being called extra special and how I disagree with well established semantics.

"I'm not eating noodles and I hate how people assume I'm eating spaghetti when I'm actually eating farfalle."

Have you ever heard of farfalle? Would you get mad at someone who referred to a dish with farfalle as "pasta" or "plate of noodles"? Because that's exactly what you're complaining about.

[–] floralmortal@lemmy.ca 1 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

I like more specific terms instead of vague terms is my thing. Spaghetti isn't nearly as vague as neurodivergent is. There's also a lot of debate about what conditions even count as neurodivergent. I've seen someone argue that having a perfect memory is neurodivergent by itself, which tells me how very vague this term is.

It isn't about being special; it's about having accurate language that isn't dreadfully vague. I've met other people who've run into similar issues as me. Saying that I'm neurodivergent would be like saying, "I'm eating dough tonight," and it's actually a plate of lasagna. That's how vague this term is. Pasta is technically dough, but no one will know what the hell you mean if you tell somebody that you're eating dough.

"I can promise you I have more illnesses, both mental and physical than you," you sound like the one making this a "special" competition now. You're also very aggressive, which isn't helping your argument at all. Not once have I called you any names, yet you insist on resorting to name-calling a stranger.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago

I like more specific terms instead of vague terms is my thing. Spaghetti isn't nearly as vague as neurodivergent is.

And why should hundreds of years of established medical literature give a flying fuck what your preference is when your use of the words is 1) prescriptively wrong and 2) very much a personal preference that you personally have?

It isn't about being special; it's about having accurate language that isn't dreadfully vague.

Again, the language isn't vague. You just don't know how to use it.

You literally said "neurology ans neurodevelopmental disorders are different categories". Which is as silly as saying "spaghetti and pasta are different foods".

And you think that medical literature is wrong.

God if I had one fking euro everytime I hear idiots complaining about things they're wrong about, I'd be so grossly rich.

Saying that I'm neurodivergent would be like saying, "I'm eating dough tonight," and it's actually a plate of lasagna

See, again. You're simply not using those correctly. YOU being illiterate doesn't mean medical literature is stupid just because YOU have misunderstood it and misuse it.

Fking sake. Dough is not pasta. Even pasta-dough is not pasta, it's pasta-dough. That's different. But spaghetti, macaroni, farfalle, penne, etc ARE all pasta and claiming theyre "different categories of food" would be immensely moronic.

Pasta is technically dough

No, it isn't, just like a car isn't metal. It's MADE from metal.

You're really having trouble with categories. Definitely neurodevelopmental disorders yeah, WHICH ARE PART OF NEUROLOGY.

you sound like the one making this a "special" competition now

If I was competing, sure. And I'd win out fucking right. I'm so sick of morons like you pretending they're better than the still stupid doctors who do make mistakes. But not mistakes as stupid and as clearly wrong as you do.

yet you insist on resorting to name-calling a stranger.

You don't understand the word "insist" either it seems.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 5 hours ago

I like saying I'm genuinely veracious, with a pervasive demand for autonomy, a scatterbrained thinker, idealistc, poly-perspectivistic, ambivert/introvert, intuitive, perceptive... and loads of other descriptors from other perspectives and paradigms more yet.

Affirms the "diversity" normal reality, the variety we each have, without so much of the othering of being "divergent".

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

"neurotype".

It's better, but still not an ideal fit, in being "types", as if there there are category buckets where it's all the same in each bucket.

At least gets away from the subtextually implied "there is a normal [correct right way] and you are not it", like "neurodivergent" does.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 minutes ago

The world is a spectrum while language can only express categories.

[–] CodenameDarlen@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The thing is, our brain is the most complex thing of the human body.

People often prefer to use the "neurodivergent" word because you might have way more things than just autism, you might even have some undocumented disorders, it's just hard to be specific when come to this.

It's like trying to give a unique name to a mix of vegetables and etc... So people just came up with the world "salad".

I personally prefer neurodivergent because I admit, not even myself, and maybe not even an specialist would be able to diagnose everything that happens in my brain. But we all know it must be something related to neurons.

[–] Lexam@lemmy.world 34 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I don't call myself neurodivergent, but I do call myself a wizard. Everyone else can just deal with that.

[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 3 points 13 hours ago

Damn, I am manifesting this energy for myself in 2026

[–] floralmortal@lemmy.ca 12 points 18 hours ago

I love this energy.

[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 21 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I like neurodivergent because it centers the issue that peoples' brains function differently. It's not a choice. It's not stupidity. I'm not just weird for no reason. My brain cells send signals differently from other peoples'. The issue is that regular people don't understand regardless of which word you use.

[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

My problem with this, is it sort of divides people into "normal" brains, and "not normal" brains. But there is no such thing as "normal" brains. Everyone's brains work differently. I think labels / diagnosis are important in cases where a person's brain is different enough in a particular way that it becomes a problem (for them, or for interacting in society, or whatever), but in these cases I think the value of the label is to communicate in which way the person suffers a problem, so that people can be aware of it. It seems strange to me, to have a label which essentially means "I suffer from some kind of problem related to how my brain works, but I'm not going to tell you which problem".

Edit: after reading other comments, I've realised that one place that neurodivergent makes sense as a label, is for building a community of people who share the experience of facing problems in life due to how their brain works. That's of course, very valid.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I get it. I'm not autistic, but I do have a brain tumor and some spinal problems that causes similar symptoms, and people love to get shitty about it. It makes some neurodivergent spaces really hard for me.

I've had to cut "friends" loose because they make "jokes" about how I can't be trusted because we saw what happened with Fetterman.

I've stopped talking to people who insisted that I'm autistic and me denying it means I'm a hateful bigot.

I've stopped talking to people who think I'm cosplaying as autistic, because I could just do chemo and brain surgery and be normal again, and "real" neurodivergencies like theirs can't be cured.

It's lonely.

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

Really sorry to hear about your tumour. But how does one make it to Lemmy without any autistic powers

[–] imacatnotaman@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

I'm autistic, mildly dyslexic, ADHD, with a helping of CPTSD. I just refer to myself as a hot mess lol. call yourself whatever you want.

[–] slackassassin@piefed.social 1 points 10 hours ago

Agree. I also don't like the othering and divisiveness. As if an all encompassing lable can define individual experience. Not that it isn't useful in certain contexts. But once it enters the lexicon, especially online, these defining terms always turn toxic. This goes for neurotypical, too. I see a lot of bigotry surrounding both terms and it seems utterly ridiculous to paint with such a broad brush upon an even broader canvas. 

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

I can relate, a bit. Personally i dont care nor mind. I always come in from a "im like this" angle, never from a "i have x" angle, which means labels like autism or adhd dont do much for me. I am how i am, and i know how to deal with it to make it easier for me, or others, and if i cant or dont want to and you cant? Thats a you issue, bugger off.

Also, how do you feel about being called neurospicy? :')

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 7 points 15 hours ago

Not the OP but me personally I despise the term neurospicy. Reeks of TikTokers trying to quirkify their bio and downplays the often crippling nature of the very real problems people with these diagnoses suffer from every day.

[–] floralmortal@lemmy.ca 9 points 17 hours ago

I'm personally not a fan of being called neurospicy. As a joke, it's okay tho; I usually call myself disabled or neurodisabled.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

The term and idea of neurodivergency originated within the autism community but its not true that its a replacement word for autism as it also includes adhd, ocd, bipolar, dislexia.. Anyone with some atypical neurological configuration.

But i get you, and your case shows why its important that the classical medical terminology stays separate from the neurodivergent ones. The way i see it one has a more socio-cultural purpose, the other an instructive medial one.

Under neurodivergence we who are different celebrate how similar we all actually are in contrast to the dominant neurotypical masses, it does not differ between our actual challenges on purpose and it can be a great way to explain ourselves to neurotypicals without having to go into the details of the diagnostic labels they may not understand or only know bias about. So in may ways it is a “i am different/special” label used in a positive “but that shouldn’t matter” kind of way.

When the context is about getting the right help, the term does nothing. But what does carry weight are the right diagnostic criteria which professionals help has experience with and knows what set of tools are relevant.

It is known that technically speaking, adhd is part of the autism spectrum, but the good reason on why its kept distinct is because giving people with mild adhd the same access to help as an autism diagnosis might get you would exhaust the system and make it harder for those on the spectrum with severe challenges to find any help at all.

[–] irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, it's just the best word I have currently, but it really is a big catch-all for a lot of disabilities/conditions. Neurodiverse is a little better as it doesn't necessarily specify that some state of being is more "normal" and we diverge from that "normal". But it's not any more accurate really and not a medical term. Even Autism and ADHD are both catch-alls for several conditions and aren't very specific at all. Just not good terminology that isn't a stand-in for "defective" or steeped in Nazi blood like "Asperger's Syndrome".

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 15 hours ago

I prefer calling myself a mutant. Like, as in an x-man. 😤

[–] nul42@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

My psychologist suggested nerodiverse with characteristics of autism.

[–] floralmortal@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago

Neurodiverse isn't an actual medical term