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[–] 5715@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago

Where did it all go wrong?

Enclosure after the Black Death.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago
[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 97 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think the “patient gamer” model could be the way through don’t buy new shit and encourage your friends to play older games too. Hardware can be not great and the games are cheap.

[–] Warehouse@piefed.ca 1 points 4 days ago

If you buy them off Steam you don't actually own the game. You own a license to play the game, and that license is non-transferable and can be revoked. Doesn't matter if it's on your hard drive.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

How long is that going to work though? Today's slop is not going to unslop in 5 years, and it seems like every big name game publisher is exclusively doing slop now. Especially the optimization issue won't go away, and it looks like the times where you could just wait for a generation or two of more powerful hardware are over, too - hardware might be getting more powerful, but the performance per dollar isn't improving because the performance is only improving incrementally and I don't see hardware prices going down to what was normal pre-Covid.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago

Still plenty of indie devs making good games. Really, you could just work through all the good games made up to this point and be fine for the rest of your life.

Otoh, if what you really care about is the social connection you get from playing games and talking about them with other people, you can just take up gardening or community service or pole dancing to get that.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

it seems like every big name game publisher is exclusively doing slop now.

You have to understand the capitalism, it is doing slop because slop is what sells to people

You will need to shift your monies away from big name game publishers to smaller ones that make content that you prefer thereby encouraging them to make more non-slop

But I've been saying it for years even before AI, call of duty 29 and fifa 56 etc are all cash cows

There is no incentive to improve if what you're doing works

[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago

I have enough unplayed games for years. And I haven't even bought all games that interest me on my wishlist.

So to answer your question: I think it will work long enough till AI either implodes or is big enough that the state forces you to connect your brain implant to it.

[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Theoretically, we could see the PC gaming market come to resemble that of eastern Europe in the past, where everybody has very minimal or outdated hardware and the indie scene builds games with this in mind.

That's pretty dire, but I prefer it over cloud subscriptions becoming the norm for gaming and other compute heavy tasks.

[–] toad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

We'll just mod the old games.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That only works if you already own the hardware and/or the majority does NOT do that model. The moment most people jump on board, the cost of old hardware will skyrocket too.

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Cross out "of PC gaming" and you got it.

[–] glibg@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 week ago (7 children)

At least we'll always have the classics. Download, play, and seed emulated games folks.

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The future of PC gaming is the community support of vintage games that you loved.

The future of consoles is amatuer AI taxidermy remakes of your childhood memories. A distorted uncanny-valley resemblence of a game you once held dear, stuffed to the brim with synthetic fluff and hung on a generic skeleton twisted and bent to roughly resemble a once vibrant and living thing.

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The console wars are over. Xbox is being spun down.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Xbox is going to be a subscription game console service, like stadia was.

Microsoft is going to use the "free" compute cycles when their AI slopcenters aren't at full utilization to run Xbox games.

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where did it all go wrong?

When we stopped publicly executing politicians and millionaires (there were no billionaires yet at the time).

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[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

For Americans the answer to 'where did we go wrong' is normally Reagan.

More in general, our biggest problem is that we let billionaires buy our politicians and didn't riot. (Eat the rich, when?)

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[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Seeing shit get worse and worse every year has thr goblinest mask of all callin' like:

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[–] Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

OOP is wrong about one thing: They're not happy.

[–] degenerate_neutron_matter@fedia.io 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Buy old PC, play Minecraft, be happy.

[–] lessthanluigi 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Also use Prism Launcher or PolyMC to play all the modpaci you can dream of.

Also uzdoom/gzdoom and all the Doom II mods you can download

[–] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

quake also has endless content! i've been going through the hundred or so levels from the recent brutalism map jam, there is so much good level design with quake's awesome gameplay

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[–] SaneMartigan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Team Fortress 2 is still populated.

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In my mind, the current timeline always starts with 2013 and the death of Aaron Swartz. You could argue it was his prosecution that started it, but his death was the moment it began to become clear. Maybe he saw where we were heading. He was being over-prosecuted. Almost everyone who wasn’t part of the establishment came to that conclusion.

He represented everything that the new digital age could be: self-educated, a lover of learning, a humanist, an activist. A common man fighting for the common people. Everything he did was to spread information and protect our ability to learn, grow, and fight against injustice.

Maybe he had a Howard Beale moment with someone when his plea deal was rejected. Maybe he saw where we were heading and knew that he would never be able to fight it again. They had done everything to make an example of him...to make it impossible for him to enact change. All he really did was find ways to use the system to share information and help people.

I know, this was about PC gaming, but everything in this current dystopia ties back to this loss for me.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

When you blamed the SJWs and Anita Sarkeesian.

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[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Offline games will stay existing, even if the AAA studios won't create those.

But fuck em.

[–] fishy@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There's already more amazing games than you or I could possibly play in a lifetime. If they only make shitty games, I'll just play old games. I've been gaming on a retro handheld and honestly there's so many amazing games I missed.

Indy devs are also killing it in the multiplayer space with silly and charming co-op experiences. I played a lot of Peak and Motor Town with friends lately and both are just so fun.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

No, we are not.

We can go back to the basics, focus on not graphical realism, and/or, invent new rendering paradigms that lead to new art styles, and compute with less overhead, have modest system requirements.

It isn't impossible.

Look at MGS5, Titanfall 2.

Shit looks pretty good, its a decade old, from before all this modern graphical absurdity.

There has literally never been a better time to become an indie dev, make a small team.

No publisher, no marketing.

Just don't overpromise, and don't take people's money untill you actually have a minimum viable product.

Godot is completely open source, and completely free, and quite capable as an engine.

No one is coming to save us, but ourselves, if we choose to.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago

Unreal 5 alone is responsible for a lot of A-AA games looking like utter shit, both standing still (dithering every-fucking-where) and in motion (enough ghosting to fill a cemetery)

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 14 points 1 week ago

They will exploit you right up until the point where you commit crime. So steal and pirate your way to liberation.

[–] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago

Well hold on there, son. You just need to take up a hobby. Have you ever considered working with your hands, sawing up wood, drilling screw holes, learning to balance chains and then build a guillotine? Work proactively - damnit.

[–] potatoguy@mbin.potato-guy.space 13 points 1 week ago

At least an age verification law didn't turn valid just yesterday for OP.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm making a lo-fi, offline, singleplayer card game designed to be completely moddable in every way so people can add custom characters, enemies, features just by putting JSON into the userdata folder.

Some of us are trying!

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

It is the grim dark far future of all gaming. Forget the promise of freedom to upgrade and superior graphical fidelity. There is no peace among the Discord servers, only an eternity of monetization, and micro transactions.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Where did it all go wrong?

See that part where millionaries became billionaires while everyone else got, at best, just enough raise to be stagnated with inflation? Yeah, that's a good starting point

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I think that gaming is headed fast into some kind of deep economic divide.

On the one hand, we have high-end gaming that chases seasonal updates, massive multiplayer experiences, requiring high-end system specs to even start. It's all practically a subscription model one way or another: keep buying new games, DLC, hardware, just to keep playing with your friends. Alternately, sign up for a subscription to play all this stuff in the cloud, dodging the need to maintain your own hardware, but never really owning anything in exchange.

Then there's the other way.

Right now, we're sitting on top of nearly 50 years of video games going back to the primordial sludge of Pong. Modern system specs are far more than what's required in almost all cases so it's practically all there for the taking for cheap. I promise you, there are grand single and multiplayer experiences to be had by dipping into that monstrous catalog. At the same time, some of the very best of those are getting new life with modern updates, fan-edits, fan-made content packs, and so on. Finally, there's the hobby and indie scenes, where new things are being made all the time in various game-jams, early access on Steam, and so much more. You have to dig for all of that of course; the people pushing you to pay a high price for entertainment will never make this easy.

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[–] arschfidel@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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When companies stopped being able to actually make anything new, they then choose to find new ways to extract profit from the customer. Far cheaper than expending money on R&D, retooling, etc. They all decided to become landlords of the worst kind, squatting on their tech and extracting rent while ensuring the rest of us own nothing.

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I recently pulled out my old PSP from way back when. If I don't have any options to buy anything to own, guess there's less incentive to buy anything new. Give me options pls

[–] Appleseuss@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

This is capitalism at work

[–] jagermo@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

There are tons of great games you can play with old hardware. Relax and start half life 2

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