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[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

Wow its almost like they wanted the twin towers. What's a national tragedy over a for profit trillion dollar military complex and billions in oil and gas. Who cares if your expendables die that's what they get paid for.

[–] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 1 points 38 minutes ago (1 children)

In a false country, their flags will always be false

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 points 25 minutes ago (1 children)

you should make a distinction between Jews and zionists/the state of Israel, remember that not all Jews are zionists, there are many anti-zionist Jews who oppose Israel and their genocide.

[–] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

Okay but when I say Arabs are committing genocide in Sudan, I don't mean all Arabs do I, that goes without saying. Egyptians for example are not, Emiratis are but I think we can all make that distinction.

Not all Jews are Israelis and vice versa I know bro, I wasn't the one who made the image.

[–] Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

Just wait until you see the one being planned to justify postponing the elections.

[–] Transform2942@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

And then JFK blocked it and nothing happened to him and these plans were surely never implemented and that's the end of the story

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago

Back then it was the President keeping the military in check. Now we have to hope the opposite happens

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

No one read this to Trump

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 70 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

The United States has always been the villain of the story. But they used to at least try to hide it behind a sheen of soft power. The only difference between now and then is that Trump unabashedly takes the mask off and gives no fuck what the rest of the world thinks.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Exactly.

Not much is different here than the presentation.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

US is the Andrew Tate of global politics right now. They were a lot more subtle about it before though. But the core values that have always held throughout history are absolute self-interest, entitlement, and hubris.

Apply Gestalt Theory to the US and watch how unrestrained capitalism raised this baby from an idealist freedom seeker and into a narcissistic bully with self-aggrandising sophist reasoning and a pure Machiavellian outlook on life.

Trump only did away with the pretences, by firing the people who took care of the subtle masquerade. He didn’t like the pushback from them on global policy, and because the shoes already fit, decided to just do it live on stage without the makeup.

Unfortunately for US citizens, that means that they get to experience the splashback as he pisses on their international credibility.

A historically meticulously curated and maintained image that’s now irrevocably ruined forevermore. No sane person can trust a promise or a treaty made through US foreign policy ever again.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago

No sane person can trust a promise or a treaty made through US foreign policy ever again.

And yet the Iranians rallied and did some revolting. Since dropping South Vietnam nobody can have relied on the US blindly. People must be taking a risk and hope that the support lasts long enough.

Trump is in power because he does what the elite needs. I would like to know why there is no need to hide the mechanisms from the masses.

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 6 points 12 hours ago

Soft power is woke, deal from strength or get crushed every time.

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[–] gigachad@piefed.social 128 points 16 hours ago (11 children)

In 1962

Does not make it less outrageous, but I thought it's good to know it's not a recent proposal

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 4 points 6 hours ago

I bet there is a proposal, we just haven't learned about it yet.

[–] katharta@piefed.social 20 points 10 hours ago

The recent ones haven't been declassified yet.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 46 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

In the modern era, the US president doesn't need to actually have a justification for starting a war, just the possibility of profit.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It's not a war, it's an engagement of political discourse through military action to accommodate business interests.

[–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago

that linkedin translator from kagi is working pretty well

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 12 hours ago

Unilateral discourse, of course!

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 9 points 14 hours ago

Because they control all the media. So their talking heads just make up some obvious lies, and they are spouted and propagated without being challenged by actual journalism.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There's a lot of crazy conspiracy theorists who believe Kennedy rejecting the operation in 1962 may have had something to do with his head doing that thing it did in Dallas in 1963.

Obviously not the only factor. He had a lot of strikes against him for pushing back on the plans of men who weren't elected to run the United States, but felt entitled to do so on account of knowing what was best for democracy.

[–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

i hate when heads do that thingy

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

That's my favourite conspiracy theory, JFK's head just did that on its own.

[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Which of course means there have been no recent proposals 🙄

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Well 9/11 was 2001? Just throwing that out there.

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[–] null@lemmy.org 31 points 15 hours ago

The CIA is full of bastards now, but it was also full of bastards back then too.

[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 4 points 10 hours ago

I think the plans to blame the Cubans for electronic warfare in killing astronauts is wild too.

They would turn an accident into casus belli

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 35 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Honestly I'm kinda shocked that they didn't do a false flag to justify the Iran invasion. Back during Trump I, there were random drone attacks against freighters in the Strait of Hormuz that I would be shocked if they were actually from Iran. Did the guy in charge of that program get fired or get sent to die in Gaza?

[–] The_Hideous_Orgalorg@sh.itjust.works 80 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Why bother with a false flag when they aren't being held accountable for any of the blatantly illegal things they are doing?

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 20 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Well, if the US imposed a draft for an invasion of Iran right now, it would likely lead to massive civil unrest - the war is very unpopular, especially among young people. At the moment, it's a very distant thing for Americans, being told that you're going to go off and die in Iran for the benefit of Israel would probably be the breaking point for people.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 19 points 16 hours ago

civil unrest is perfect. they can just arrest the protesting civillians and put them to work in the for profit prisons, leaving only compliant civilians. win-win.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 4 points 12 hours ago

I'm not convince it would lead to much civil unrest.

[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 38 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Playing catch-up, we'll get one

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[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 11 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

Well, we don't really know for sure yet because it's so recent -- the US does have a 'clone' of Iran's Shahed drone called the LUCAS, which Iran has claimed the US has used in false-flag attack against civilian targets in the Gulf. We won't know for sure until the intelligence around the Iranian invasion is declassified, which probably won't be for several decades.

Honestly, I think if this war continues to escalate, a false flag on US soil becomes more and more likely, to get support for an invasion of Iran.

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[–] redsand@infosec.pub 3 points 12 hours ago

John's version is going to be priced in somewhere. They're too corrupt to resist something like an oil refinery to pump their stocks or the Texas grid to kill Tesla( and make some shorts kings )

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