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[–] PixeIOrange@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

If politicans say something the opposite seems to happen so good bye private chats :(

[–] lb_o@lemmy.world 56 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

BY ONE FUCKING VOTE!

https://howtheyvote.eu/votes/189574

Vote out every single fucker who is trying to limit our freedoms!

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago

Even worse I think there was one more vote for the extension but they need 50% +1 to pass and there were 24 abstentions.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Thats actually insane in itself that it got that close. Next time they will succeed. :/

People are so stupid to support this. They dont seem to understand that its never about protecting anyone and its always about building dystopia.

[–] chigga@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

i don't understand, was EPP for or against the extension ? Cause my understanding was that they asked to have a second vote even if the first one already rejected the extension.

[–] orosus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I don't understand the votes on that website, most people from EPP voted 👎 (against the extension) but that means they are against chat control? Or in favor? What european parties are opposing to the chat control, I want to know which parties we can trust on this matter.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 1 points 6 hours ago

IIRC (but could be wrong) the EPP wanted stricter chat controls, not an extension of what was already there.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 64 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Why do we have to keep fighting our own government for our rights? Why can't our government just represent us?

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 17 points 15 hours ago

Because unfortunately our rights are opposed to the will of capital and they serve capital first and foremost

[–] Cantaloupe@lemmy.fedioasis.cc 27 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Governments don't represent the common people anymore.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 4 points 18 hours ago

We should topple the EU then tbh

[–] anugeshtu@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

To put it in Douglas Adams words: Because the politicians are lizards ;)

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Why can't they vote on a ban to do any chat control bills? Stop this nonsense from happening again.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago

If you have money you can ask the lobbyists.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 123 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why was chat control allowed to be presented again in the first place.

[–] chigga@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago (1 children)

this is the real thing, this is almost certainly unconstitutional.

greedy corps going against law as usual.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

No, not really. It's because they retracted the proposal before going to vote, because they knew it wouldnt pass after Germany publicly said they would vote against.

Then they changed some stuff and send it again, which is now rejected as it seems.

Now they need to wait, but they didnt before.

[–] chigga@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So this war is far from an end huh?

[–] Gumus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 hours ago

We have to win every time. They only need to win once.

[–] undeffeined@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 day ago

They won't stop pushing until they get it

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 36 points 23 hours ago

We should go to war against corpocracy, until all corporations are bankrupt.

EVERY. DAMN. ONE.

[–] Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 3 points 15 hours ago

I imagine they're thinking, "Well we will see what the new vote next month has to say about that!"

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 28 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

they will keep trying in the most sneaky ways until they are deposed. they only need to succeed once.

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 64 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can it just fuck off for good this time?

[–] chigga@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

it's indicative of the system we're in. our oligarchs have enough money to pay people to push for this in perpetuity while the rest of us are forced to give up some degree of our lives to fight it off on a field of battles that's tilted towards money; they will win eventually unless the system itself is changed.

[–] iamtherealwalrus@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

Where can I see who voted for and against? I want to know if I need to change who I vote for next EU election.

[–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 32 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (8 children)

Scroll down and select your country: https://fightchatcontrol.eu/

It's always the ones you most expect.

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[–] ceigid@feddit.org 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Will they just revote again then until it passes?

[–] chigga@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

hopefully no. but we are still in danger

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is indeed the plan. Only 1 time is enough to get this through the system. But it requires 500 times saying no first.

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[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Let’s celebrate this victory… even though it’s concerning that it is a recurring topic :-/

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 3 points 18 hours ago

Congratulations!

[–] Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] lb_o@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Dude, we're protesting now until all those fuckers who voted in favor of chat control are voted out of parliament. We have names!

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They'll just change a few things and try again. I feel like we've been hearing about chat control on and off for about 5 years now and I can't imagine it'll go away soon.

[–] iByteABit@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Good, but pretty meaningless overall while they still allow lobbying to take place.

They pretend to care that lobbying means corruption from corporate interests, but doing anything meaningful to stop lobbying entirely and punish anyone still doing it would be "authoritarian communism" now, wouldn't it?

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