If politicans say something the opposite seems to happen so good bye private chats :(
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BY ONE FUCKING VOTE!
https://howtheyvote.eu/votes/189574
Vote out every single fucker who is trying to limit our freedoms!
Even worse I think there was one more vote for the extension but they need 50% +1 to pass and there were 24 abstentions.
Thats actually insane in itself that it got that close. Next time they will succeed. :/
People are so stupid to support this. They dont seem to understand that its never about protecting anyone and its always about building dystopia.
i don't understand, was EPP for or against the extension ? Cause my understanding was that they asked to have a second vote even if the first one already rejected the extension.
I don't understand the votes on that website, most people from EPP voted 👎 (against the extension) but that means they are against chat control? Or in favor? What european parties are opposing to the chat control, I want to know which parties we can trust on this matter.
IIRC (but could be wrong) the EPP wanted stricter chat controls, not an extension of what was already there.
Why do we have to keep fighting our own government for our rights? Why can't our government just represent us?
Because unfortunately our rights are opposed to the will of capital and they serve capital first and foremost
Governments don't represent the common people anymore.
We should topple the EU then tbh
To put it in Douglas Adams words: Because the politicians are lizards ;)
Why can't they vote on a ban to do any chat control bills? Stop this nonsense from happening again.
If you have money you can ask the lobbyists.
Why was chat control allowed to be presented again in the first place.
this is the real thing, this is almost certainly unconstitutional.
greedy corps going against law as usual.
No, not really. It's because they retracted the proposal before going to vote, because they knew it wouldnt pass after Germany publicly said they would vote against.
Then they changed some stuff and send it again, which is now rejected as it seems.
Now they need to wait, but they didnt before.
So this war is far from an end huh?
We have to win every time. They only need to win once.
They won't stop pushing until they get it
We should go to war against corpocracy, until all corporations are bankrupt.
EVERY. DAMN. ONE.
I imagine they're thinking, "Well we will see what the new vote next month has to say about that!"
they will keep trying in the most sneaky ways until they are deposed. they only need to succeed once.
Can it just fuck off for good this time?
PLEASE
it's indicative of the system we're in. our oligarchs have enough money to pay people to push for this in perpetuity while the rest of us are forced to give up some degree of our lives to fight it off on a field of battles that's tilted towards money; they will win eventually unless the system itself is changed.
Where can I see who voted for and against? I want to know if I need to change who I vote for next EU election.
Scroll down and select your country: https://fightchatcontrol.eu/
It's always the ones you most expect.
Will they just revote again then until it passes?
hopefully no. but we are still in danger
This is indeed the plan. Only 1 time is enough to get this through the system. But it requires 500 times saying no first.
Let’s celebrate this victory… even though it’s concerning that it is a recurring topic :-/
Congratulations!
see u all on monday
Dude, we're protesting now until all those fuckers who voted in favor of chat control are voted out of parliament. We have names!
They'll just change a few things and try again. I feel like we've been hearing about chat control on and off for about 5 years now and I can't imagine it'll go away soon.
Good, but pretty meaningless overall while they still allow lobbying to take place.
They pretend to care that lobbying means corruption from corporate interests, but doing anything meaningful to stop lobbying entirely and punish anyone still doing it would be "authoritarian communism" now, wouldn't it?