what are the consequences (to Trump)?
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Our allies having no respect for us and have a strong history of what kings are.
No no the world RESPECTS America more than ever with numbers no one has seen before
consequences to trump.
He loses even more soft power?
I think it’s better to mark this as a potential turning of the tide. The more this sort of talk from other countries government officials, the bolder others will hopefully become. If the world begins a united shunning of the US and Israel it would be a win
He doesn't lose soft power, the US loses soft power.
I mean, soft power doesn't really matter to a dictator that insists on using hard power.
Except that suddenly he's realizing that soft power did matter, as he casts about looking for anyone to help him out of this mess he's got himself into in Iran.
I love being part of the production server he is learning how to use a computer on.
It's charitable of you to think that he's connected those dots.
Well I don't see anyone other than Starmer rushing to help clean up his mess in Iran
They certainly do. Most of our European allies still have literal kings, and almost all of them are 100% controlled by Israel just like the US. Heck, many of them will send their own citizens to jail or prison merely for criticizing Israel. Talk is cheap but governments actually willing to stand up to the United States of Israel are few & far between. About the only country I have respect for in Europe right now is Spain. Macron merely talks like he opposes some actions by Israel to his people, but then cordially meets with Netanyahu & parrots his talking points when push comes to shove. His handler student-groomer Brigette is no better.
Most of our European allies still have literal kings

They certainly do. Most of our European allies still have literal kings, and almost all of them are 100% controlled by Israel just like the US
Okay, I've heard this before, but why does Israel have so much power over these countries? I've seen evidence that they do over the US, but I haven't really looked into other countries. I'm seriously asking what your opinion is, why does a small country in the Levant have so much power over huge economies?
You mean Spain and Sweden that pushed to recognise genocide and Palestinian statehood? That kind of power? Germany has deep guilt about WW2. Israel has outsized influence but not the owned politicians like in the USA.
I'm not trying to have a fight with anyone, just trying to understand and have a discussion.
Yes, and I was adding to the conversion, more addressing the poster above you.
However to limp all of Europe as one entity of monarchies and Israeli influence is disingenuous. Misguided at best, propaganda at worst.
Israel is abusing its relationship and historical persecution of Jews to allow them to persecute others, including with genocide. They are (quietly) expanding into Lebanon while people are looking elsewhere. The ceasefire in Gaza still kills Palestinians with frequent Israeli actions.
The whole war seems to be at their behest and the involvement of Iran is directly linked to their bombing of Iran 2 years ago. However, Iran is also the supporter of much of he resistance against their genocidal actions. As it was mainly carried out in a terrorist/guerrilla type fashion, Israel's view os that they have no choice but to act. It's obviously concerning that no government in the west seems concerned that they claim valid cause to have violent relations with every neighbour.
They shriek about nuke development while not being a party to nuclear disarmament treaties and having their own nukes. It's disingenuous but works for propaganda purposes. They claim the un is biased and lacks authority, glossing over the fact that the creation of Israel was via un processes.
In the case of Europe, the monarchies that are mentioned don't hold power and are mostly ceremonial. As an Irish person, I'm completely against the idea of inherited authority and wealth of nations, but the USA seems to give more authority to their ordained families. Look at the head of healthcare. If he wasn't a Kennedy, do you think a former heroin addict vaccine conspiracy theorist who thinks autistic people should be in work camps would be a potential leader in any other country?
Look at the head of healthcare. If he wasn’t a Kennedy, do you think a former heroin addict vaccine conspiracy theorist who thinks autistic people should be in work camps would be a potential leader in any other country?
To be fair, this isn't normal and crazy for everyone but the diehard magas. The Kennedy's were all democrats, I have no idea how the magas adopted them.
It is normal for a Kennedy to walk into a political position, though. Maga just magnifies the problem. They didn't create it.
It's true that the US has a problem with political dynasties, and nepotism in general, but these issues are certainly not unique to America. While Kennedy's last name got him on the ballot, and his presence there led to his current position, he's about as qualified as anyone else in this administration. The only qualification that matters to Trump is total personal loyalty. If old worm-brains failed that test, he'd be out on his ass, replaced with any no-name toadying lickspittle that was convenient.
Well then, saying European monarchies is a problem is disingenuous if nepotism is a global problem providing outsized political power.
Probably Mossad and having dirt on high ranking officials via methods such as Epstein.
Israeli intelligence agencies are some of the most nefarious around.
Exactly, talk is cheap.
Talk shapes discourse, talk shapes opinions, talk rallies and cements a population.
And sometimes talk is just air. Forgive me for my cynicism, but I've heard this same talk a lot.
I get it.
Well said, and not surprising.