this post was submitted on 30 Mar 2026
17 points (94.7% liked)

askchapo

23248 readers
207 users here now

Ask Hexbear is the place to ask and answer ~~thought-provoking~~ questions.

Rules:

  1. Posts must ask a question.

  2. If the question asked is serious, answer seriously.

  3. Questions where you want to learn more about socialism are allowed, but questions in bad faith are not.

  4. Try !feedback@hexbear.net if you're having questions about regarding moderation, site policy, the site itself, development, volunteering or the mod team.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

~~oh boy another post for speculating about the future~~

Let's say revolution happens in the USA. How do things end up? Obviously, the ideal is essentially a second USSR. But is that possible? I worry that the world today is too jaded to repeat such an optimistic project. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to bash China or the Chinese model, and I know their strategy is based on their material conditions and trying to outcompete the West, but their cold pragmatism feels very demoralizing. I want a state uncompromisingly committed to workers' rights, the world revolution, and building communism, complete with a supranational proletarian union, but I'm worried that such a thing could never happen in the modern world.

What are you people's thoughts?

top 25 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Lowleekun@hexbear.net 1 points 5 minutes ago

If the unlikely event happens and we get a US revolution, pretty much everything is possible. UDSSR style would be neat.

Not sure Agent Orange is that fast at dismantling US power. I fear we will cycle back to "fascism and imperialism with hand brakes on" and maybe the next Repube-pres manages to steal enough of the countries wealth to tip the scale.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 3 points 47 minutes ago

but their cold pragmatism feels very demoralizing.

The Soviet Union played the geopolitical game as well. Go look up who they were supporting in Ethiopia. Go look up who was the first country to officially recognize the Zionist entity (hint: it wasn't the US).

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 1 points 24 minutes ago

No. The average American Cranium is not capable of starting a revolution and an existing America will never let Soviet style communism prosper.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 16 points 3 hours ago

The USSR was also pragmatic in its time. It was rarely uncompromising as you describe.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

The modern world is build around US hegemony, so if a revolution happens in the US that completely changes all the prior assumptions that underpin China's model. There wouldn't even be a West to outcompete anymore. A lot of possibilities open up.

[–] bunnossin@hexbear.net 6 points 3 hours ago

Very true...

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 15 points 4 hours ago
[–] Sneakytrickyyy@hexbear.net 9 points 4 hours ago

Let's say revolution happens in the USA.

thinking-about-it

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 14 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The world may be jaded but I don't think the left is jaded. And that's who has always created and run these political projects. Also I think it completely depends on who you're looking at. I think there is a "silent majority" of people who are absolutely ready for a positive global project. But nobody so far has the chutzpah to get it going.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago

hundreds of people have had said chutzpah over the years, they tend to get murdered by the united states.

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 9 points 4 hours ago

we were gonna do it this weekend but we were one inflatable dinosaur costume short

It better be.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 hours ago (7 children)

Why do you want USSR back if it was good only on a paper and in reality was a dictatorship slavery regime? And especially in the US? If you just want a communism union made from the USA states, then simply say so.

P. S. For those, who worship USSR like it was a God blessed thing(it was not), don't even bother to reply about it to me here. Just press dislike and move on. I don't want to discuss with you your obsession.

[–] abc@hexbear.net 3 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

Someone remind me to ban this nerd in like 24 hours; in the meantime, feel free to laugh at their disassociation from reality (there were famously 200+ million slaves in the USSR)

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 minutes ago

LOL. Ban now. That is the only thing you can do except being ignorant child with a bit of power. Like, literally, why threaten to do something if you can do it? You don't like truth and don't have ability to comprehend it. And I do have ability to open your mind. So it is like a draw.

[–] moss_icon@hexbear.net 9 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

In 1921 Lenin forced 256533 novemtrigintillion men to take estrogen and become transgender. All who refused were sent to the gulag and forced to look at Shrek inflation rule 34. Denialists of this event were later known as the Undertale fandom.

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Answering with brainrot slop? Boring.

[–] moss_icon@hexbear.net 9 points 1 hour ago

You said yourself that you aren’t going to listen to anyone else’s opinions, so why bother making a serious comment

You commented on a fucking Hexbear thread knowing full well what kind of reaction you’d get.

[–] Moidialectica@hexbear.net 18 points 3 hours ago

we don't have a downvote

[–] BattlemechPotemkin@hexbear.net 14 points 3 hours ago

The USSR had serious flaws (it collapsed after all), but it made real and significant advancements over what came before, and what came after was a dramatic decline.

To contrast the US was built on slavery and still hasn't fully outlawed the practice. Turning the states into Soviet republics doesn't even make sense. If you're doing something like that, might as well redo the borders, and make sure native nations and minority groups get equitable representation.

Anyways we have an infographic that can give you a more detailed explanation of how the USSR actually functioned here: https://hexbear.net/PPB

[–] CocteauChameleons@hexbear.net 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Erm actually you can't challenge my dumbass opinions

[–] abc@hexbear.net 2 points 46 minutes ago

smuglord Just press dislike and move on