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lemmy.ml and hexbear.net has been banned in China (lemmy.ca)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by Wu9fee@lemmy.ca to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/6763330

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/6763328

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/6137607

now users must use VPN for login lemmy.ml

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[-] GONADS125@lemmy.world 222 points 10 months ago

I'm not happy with this development, but I'm slightly amused by the irony being that lemmy.ml is pro-china and has been moderated as such.

[-] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 194 points 10 months ago

Hexbear might as well be the CCP propaganda wing, this development is fucking hilarious

[-] Kaldo@kbin.social 69 points 10 months ago

I was curious what lemmy.ml has to say about this but it seems the linked post was deleted in the meantime 🤡

[-] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 31 points 10 months ago

It's my fault. I signed up for it before I realized it was a pro China instance and the other day I said I'm not a Communist.

[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 17 points 10 months ago

I feel like I might have legitimately helped as well by mocking them incessantly for being campists and not socialists

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Where you drunk?

[-] averagedrunk@lemmy.ml 15 points 10 months ago

Who, me? Never.

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[-] Wu9fee@lemmy.ca 18 points 10 months ago

The poster was banned for trolling but I saw a comment showing that it is real.

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago

It is definitely blocked.

Source: I'm in Mainland China.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

West Taiwan*

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[-] Neato@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago

I don't understand why the pro China tanked subs would get banned but not the rest.

[-] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 55 points 10 months ago

Even China is embarrassed. You ever had someone defend you but really poorly? Ya.

[-] 1bluepixel@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is exactly it.

I'm moving to China for work, so I'm interested in alternative points of view on Chinese society from the usual U.S. mainstream media CCP hate boner. I checked out hexbear, and... my goodness.

They cheer for a version of China that the Chinese themselves would be embarrassed by. It's clearly driven by 14-year-old white boy edgelords who are enamored with a hardcore Marxist-Leninist vision of China that never existed, most likely in reaction to a dislike of modern Western capitalism. I mean, they referenced "struggle sessions" with nostalgia and cheer for Bashar al-Assad because China is being friendly to him.

Real-life China is quite different from the depictions you see on main Lemmy instances, but it sure as hell isn't anything like what the tankies are jerking off to, either.

[-] vidarh@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

It feels like most Western CCP cheerleaders are basically cheering on a pre-Deng version of the CCP and haven't quite noticed that the CCP of today would totally purge anyone pushing the pre-Deng/pre-1978 views of the CCP.

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[-] redballooon@lemm.ee 25 points 10 months ago

They might spread western ideas of communism in China. That’s not something China can allow.

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[-] redballooon@lemm.ee 95 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The great misunderstanding of hard left leaning western folks is that neither Russia nor China are socialist or communist.

Just like their hard right leaning counterparts they’re stuck in a mindset from the first half of the past century.

[-] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They don't really believe Russia is socialist to any degree, they just support it because it (supposedly) opposes the western hegemony, USA/NATO, etc.

Basically the same logic as that of pro-Russian right-wingers.

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[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Supporters of autocratic state capitalist regimes like China and Russia also aren't left-leaning.

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[-] mnoram@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

I think I'm confused. I haven't seen any left leaning people support Russia or China. It's right leaning people that support them. What am I missing? Also I've never seen any left leaning people say Russia and China are actually socialist or communist since the 80s or 90s. I've seen right leaning people claim that lefties believe that but never any examples in real life.

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[-] jacktherippah@lemdro.id 73 points 10 months ago

This is too funny. What a great post to wake up to lmfao.

[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

China*

Please stop saying "mainland China". It implies Taiwan is part of China, at least to some.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 62 points 10 months ago

Please stop saying “mainland China”. It implies Taiwan is part of China, at least to some.

It means without Hong Kong.

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Mainland China refers to China sans Hong Kong and Macao, yes. Because you have to distinguish and "Mainland China" is a whole lot less typing than "China but without Hong Kong and, oh yeah, Macao too".

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[-] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The official name of Taiwan's government is Republic of China, and it's the continuation of the government that controlled all of China before Mao's uprising.

So I'm not sure your argument makes sense. They claim to be the legitimate Chinese government in their own name.

[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Outside of that very specific context, China == PRC. I understand the history of Taiwan very well, and it's important for people to understand that they are two different countries.

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[-] Wu9fee@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago

Sorry I only copied the title

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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I also read it to mean not HK. Is that not right?

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[-] hark@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago

Guess they're not tankies then.

[-] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

Not tankie enough*

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[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 10 months ago

lmfao the Xinny the pooh boot suckers are banned from their favourite dictatorship?

[-] meldroc@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago

Leopards ate tankies' faces!

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I tested two services that supposedly allow you to check if a site is blocked in China. I don't know with certainty how accurate these tools are in general, but I can say they gave me consistent results for lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, and lemmy.ca. Hexbear and lemmy.ml register as blocked, while other instances go through.

https://www.comparitech.com/privacy-security-tools/blockedinchina/

Results: lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ca, lemmy.world

https://www.vpnmentor.com/tools/test-the-great-china-firewall/

Results: lemmy.ml, hexbear.net, lemmy.ca. Lemmy.world could not be parsed using this tool, perhaps due to not being set to work with that TLD.

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 39 points 10 months ago

Not lemmygrad though, how odd

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[-] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

So two of the more tankie instances got banned in China.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 32 points 10 months ago

The original post on lemmy.ml has been removed by the mods with this justification:

Removed Post lemmy.ml has been banned in China mainland reason: Not a question

Source: https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemovePost

[-] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What community was in posted at? I hate how these post URLs don't show the community in the URL.

EDIT: The modlog is interesting. Very sporadic activity up until a few days ago, and then the mod is cleaning up posts, comments, getting rid of moderators, etc.