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[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 120 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Worth pointing out this isn't any proper Android TV devices, but rather those cheap boxes that are often basically SBCs with AOSP installed on them which are predominantly sold as easy piracy boxes.

Edit: in fact, the article doesn't currently have TV in the title

[-] Vent@lemm.ee 28 points 10 months ago

Leaving out the TV makes it less precise and more clickbaity because then it sounds like Android phones are affected.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

I guess the problem is that "Android TV" is a specific thing that none of these devices actually are, they're just dodgy boxes running Android that can be plugged into a TV.

For me it's more clickbaity because Android TV isn't actually involved here at all.

[-] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 10 months ago

I'd say it would be more clickbaity if you just removed the "TV", because it'd make you think of smartphones, and those would be much more concerning

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 70 points 10 months ago
[-] Gonzako@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

If I don't connect it to the internet they don't get to sell ur data innit

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[-] Arfman@aussie.zone 8 points 10 months ago

LOL I'm still using an old CRT TV because it just won't die and I barely watch TV

[-] PoopMonster@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Walmart sells Sceptre 4k tvs which are dumb, sure they aren't OLED or have amazing refresh rates but they are the perfect TV for most people, it's much easier to chuck and buy a new $20 streaming device when updates make it crawl to a near stop than it is to do the same with a $600+ TV.

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[-] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 8 points 10 months ago

I'm annoyed that they don't sell them and that even if you don't connect a smart tv to wifi to keep it dumb it'll still not just be a display and it'll try to shove stuff in your face

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[-] itsraining@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago

That's why you should build your own media center from an old machine. Much safer and more private.

[-] wafflez@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago
[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 34 points 10 months ago
  1. Connect old PC to TV. Both can be 15 years old.
  2. (optional) For better performance, get a small SSD alongside the big HDD (a 64GB / partition will do), maybe have a homemade NAS ready too
  3. Install Lubuntu, Mint XFCE, Puppy Linux or any other distro of choice
  4. Set up KDE Connect, qBittorrent and VLC
  5. Enjoy
[-] SEND_NOODLES_PLS@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Cheers, I'm using this as a jump off point for a weekend project maybe. Would anything change if I was interested in casting content too?

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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Look into Plex servers, that should keep you busy for the next six months till you get it up and running.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 33 points 10 months ago
[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Is jellyfin a better alternative?

[-] PlexSheep@feddit.de 11 points 10 months ago
[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 10 months ago

Yeah, it's free and open source. I just pointed it at a few folders of TV, movies and music that I downloaded years ago, and it catalogued them all, downloaded all the blurbs and posters.

Like a mini Netflix that you host yourself.

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[-] danielfgom@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

The problem is that YouTube app and F1 app are Android only so having a Linux media box won't help. It needs to run Android to run Android apps.

Plus I like to use Chromecast, we use it all the time to send YouTube videos from our phones to the big screen.

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[-] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 49 points 10 months ago

Wait, smart devices might not be secure?! I'm shocked!

[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 11 points 10 months ago

Are non smart TVs even still a thing nowadays? I don't own or watch any TV so I honestly don't know how the market currently looks like.

[-] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Yes. They are sold for commercial use, e.g., McD’s menu, and are quite pricey.

[-] thegreekgeek@midwest.social 20 points 10 months ago

I think you meant to say not subsidized by ad tracking lol

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[-] wjrii@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago

Depends on your definition of "quite pricey." There's no equivalent of a $250 50" Insignia FireTV, but I've seen Samsung signage displays on Amazon for about a $75-$100 premium over their comparable Smart TVs. They also don't come with a stand, so if you weren't already buying a VESA mount you'll need to add another $40-80. There is a significant premium, but it's not necessarily orders of magnitude.

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[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 14 points 10 months ago

Apparently "smartness" has not invaded projectors...per a comment I read here on kbin a while back from a projector owner. This really encourages me to buy one.

[-] Alienator@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

It did though, last time I went to a tech store, there was a samsung smart projector that had all the capabilities of a smart tv

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[-] Chozo@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago

They're harder to find, for sure. Especially if you want a large screen.

When I was shopping around a few years ago, the only 65" TV I could find without smart features was a Sceptre, which is Walmart's electronics brand. Speakers so bad that I had to buy a sound bar, and the display isn't that great, but it gets the job done and I don't need to worry about it being an attack vector.

[-] alignedchaos@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They get called “monitors” a lot (depending whether you need them to pick up cable/airwaves of course)

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[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

These are just generic Android TV devices that use Allwinner board. Allwinner made these kind of generic boards for Android TV and Android Auto head unit and sell them to OEMs. The OEMs then "customize" it by adding their APKs into the ROM provided by Allwinner. I doubt the malware come from Allwinner. Maybe it's just one (or more) OEM that include whatever APK they found on the internet without checking.

[-] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Owning a smart TV is one of the stupidest things you can do.

I'm admittedly this type of stupid, but I also know how to blacklist all the domains my garbage ass Vizio tries to phone home to.

They make the devices cheap so that they can spy on you. It's the New Deal.


Edit: I see i'm not the only one who gave up on finding a reasonable TV and just opted to neuter a Smart TV instead. Now that I'm not in a position of "me want now, nothing in local store", I think Ill take a few moments to do some research for everyone, and myself, just to highlight that there actually are still options. Heres a few brands I found that still offer Dumb TVs. I know nothing else about these, and am not in any way promoting these brands or claiming they are good at all. IDK.

This is not endorsement

If anyone has relevant info about these brands, related to if they are good or suck... let me know.

[-] Eggyhead@artemis.camp 15 points 10 months ago

Do modern TVs even come in non-smart variants anymore?

[-] ubermeisters@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

yeah I have 3 connected to this PC

Edit, i felt bad about being a smart ass, and edited my parent comment to be more.. helpful

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[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

It doesn’t really matter, just don’t connect them to the internet. Our TV just has a 14 year old computer that plays media perfectly, and is completely cut off from the internet.

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[-] vext01 10 points 10 months ago

It's hard to buy a dumb TV now

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[-] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

new Moto G phones come to mind lol

just got one and dear lord so much adware

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[-] spiderkle@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago

Linus just recently did a whole episode on a few Android TV boxes from China. Very concernig findings

[-] CeeBee@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Who? The guy with questionable "methodology"?

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[-] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks 12 points 10 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

findings

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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[-] Kissaki@feddit.de 11 points 10 months ago

In total the researchers confirmed eight devices with backdoors installed—seven TV boxes, the T95, T95Z, T95MAX, X88, Q9, X12PLUS, and MXQ Pro 5G, and a tablet J5-W.

The other thing discussed is fraudulent android apps that have been removed from the play store.

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