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cross-posted from: https://infosec.pub/post/46445602

Is this still going to happen? What can we do?

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Almost time for me to switch to UbuntuTouch. It's well supported on my phone.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Didn't europe fine the shit out of apple for doing this same thing?

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Ooooh wow! A fine! That sounds just as useful as a strongly worded letter.

The amounts that are fined are just a piss in the resources those companies have. And even a more serious fine is still just money, and can be written-off as operational cost.

Call me when it's jail time, with an extradition process and/or an international capture order.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It got them to change didn't it? But I agree, this whole never jailing ceos for the crimes their companies commit is bullshit and is why America is a corpo shithole now.

[–] ByteSorcerer@beehaw.org 1 points 18 minutes ago

I think with how current economics work it could also be useful to fine all shareholders when a company commits a crime. Ideally fines in percentage of the current stock value, and perhaps even in two parts, half applied immediately to affect all current shareholders, and the other half applied a week or so later to maximise panic-selling and make the stocks undesirable to force stock prices to make a nosedive.

It's often mostly shareholders that actively push for enshittification, and they often don't feel any of the financial consequences of fines on companies as long as the line still goes up. So if you fine in a way that shareholders are negatively affected and stock prices (which is what holds most of the wealth of many shareholders) to plummet then I think that'd be much more effective.

Though jailing CEOs for crimes of their company would still be effective for private companies (though they seem to participate a lot less in enshittification as they focus on long-term strategies instead of maximising quarterly growth above all else). For public companies a CEO is often mostly just a scapegoat for the decisions made by the board of directors and shareholders.

[–] CptHacke@piefed.social 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to stop using Android. I don't need my phone. Sure, it's convenient and often helpful, but it's not something I can't live without. Fuck these assholes.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you sure you can't? Because when my phone was stolen last month, I came to terms with how much the modern world needs one to have one.

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago

You mean how others need you to have one.

I put a clause in my contracts, and I also do it for social interactions: if anyone needs me to have a Google Party-approved phone, or a Google Surveillance-approved application, it's their responsibility to provide it to me.