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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 weeks ago

To me that sounds like nearly 50,000 people that have good reason to go burn down data centers.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

What is wrong with Americans? Why do they tolerate this?

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

For an intolerant people, they're surprisingly tolerant of their own abuse.

[–] smegger@aussie.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It kind of looks like their politicians don't give a crap what the little people think. Likely money involved, I'd wager.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

As an American, I think about this graph way too often:

Basically, yeah. Ideally, as public support rises, the pass rate would also rise. And inversely, as support drops, the pass rate would also drop. That flat ~30% pass rate regardless of public support means that the bottom 90% literally isn’t represented at all. Their needs and wishes literally are not factored into the bill’s chances of passing at all. Meanwhile, the wealthy have an extreme amount of influence on whether or not a bill will pass.

[–] kurmudgeon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's what they voted for. Leopards are getting full of faces all across America.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Can confirm I certainly did not vote for this shit

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

have you seen who they vote for? this is what they want

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If the voting system trends towards two bad options which both get worse every year, how much does their vote reflect what they really want?

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If they choose the worst option it's a signal they want to keep moving in that direction!

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Only a tiny portion of people are actually psychopaths who would knowingly choose the worst option for everyone.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And thanks to gerrymandering that minority gets it's way half the time

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I don't care how good someone thinks they are - eventually they will fall to temptation and fail to resist the bad incentives placed on them by a system.

If a government is elected under a winner-take-all (first-past-the-post) voting system then there is no incentive to change that system to solve gerrymandering (also the spoiler effect and misrepresentation error). I hope it is possible for an newly elected party to quickly implement a representative voting system after winning on an unrepresentative one.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It’s not that tiny, it’s at least 27%.

Lunch Discussions #145: The Crazification Factor

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Bingo. Voting for the lesser evil is still voting for evil.

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck that and not voting at all is voting for the popular evil then.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's always more than 2 choices.

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In Europe where there is a proper parlement getting your fave party to patlement is valid. In the two party system of US voting for the lesser most popular monster is the way to keep the worst monster out of the whitehouse, you can still do other political action to pursue YOUR ideals.

[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But it's not a 2 party system by design. It's just that the major parties have convinced enough sheep that it is.

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well your so called sheep are the voters that determine this reality. You can work to change it or do name calling and denying reality

[–] Nima@leminal.space 0 points 2 weeks ago

thanks for letting us know you have absolutely no understanding of the american election system.

confidently, too.

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Because any public attempt of resistance is going to be met with violence. Our government has stated they plan to conduct drone warfare on us. Don't get me wrong, personally I know what happens when there's no resistance (they'll just kill you anyway) but for the majority it's usually a combination of distance (this place is huge), poverty and not wanting to be canon fodder for something they likely had nothing to do with.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember guys, the US is 3000 miles wide. That's 3 days of straight driving one side to the other. 5 if you sleep.

BUT whilst Tahoe is 5 days away from the capital of the country, it's only 3 hours from the capital of California. Also let's not forget Lake Tahoe is the land of the lesser rich. Even a shack is worth 3 mil up there

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah, there are lots of memes about Europeans coming to visit America, and expecting to be able to visit New York, Seattle, the Grand Canyon, and Los Angeles in a single week. Because in Europe, you can literally just pop over to France for lunch, because it’s only like 45 minutes away. I drive 45 minutes to work every single day, in each direction.

It’s always a little bit funny (and a little bit sad) seeing a European posting about “why Americans haven’t lit the White House on fire yet?” It’s because 90% of Americans would need to drive for like a week just to reach the capitol. And even then, you’d only get the privileged few who were able to schedule time off of work for it.

This means American protests tend to be very localized. Maybe Dallas has a protest in Texas, but that is easily ignored by federal lawmakers because Dallas is like 1300 miles away. Hell, even state lawmakers won’t care about a protest in Dallas, because Dallas is like 200 miles away from its own state capitol.

[–] timwa@lemmy.snowgoons.ro -1 points 2 weeks ago

Do they actually teach Geography in US schools? Or were you homeschooled?

Clue: If I chose to "pop over" to Paris for lunch, it would be a 22 hour drive with no breaks, or more plausibly, a 3 hour flight. I have done it by train, but that's still a couple of overnight trains (one night to Vienna, one more to say Frankfurt or Brussels, and then a few more hours on to Paris.)

What you're really whining about is "we surrendered all power to an electoral system that concentrates all the power somewhere thousands of miles away, and in the hands of a man elected by something so far from democracy it's laughable". Which is very much on you, not geography.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We don't, but nothing we do matters, so it happens anyway

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

That's actually a lot of crazy shit going on right now that the media keeps ignoring.

https://warehousefire.watch/

It is mattering.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Too busy scrolling social media filled with rage bait and propaganda

[–] Auk@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Nima@leminal.space 0 points 2 weeks ago

the kids deserve this too I guess? and everyone that is protesting? do the innocents chucked in the back of ICE vans deserve it as well?

speak for yourself.

[–] SeaSgt@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 weeks ago

Americans still learning that their nation is a business.

[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago

You'll own nothing and you'll be happy apparently

[–] SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have learned recently that historically the time gap between missing 9 meals and cannibalism is way fucking closer than we think. Just pray that people don't go hungry, everything falls apart very fast.

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is the take away from that article supposed to be? Less wheat, more soybeans?

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn’t their town not incorporated because they wanted to save money on taxes?

[–] notgold@aussie.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah I'm confused here. Seems like the local utility was supposed to have started figuring this by 2015 but they didn't do anything so NV agreed to another 5 years. Then nothing was done so they agreed to 5 more years. Nothing done locally again and now NV are going to oblige with their contract. 17 years is a long time to do nothing then blame the other guy

NV Energy sold its California electric assets to Liberty in 2009 and agreed to keep supplying power temporarily. That arrangement was extended in 2015, again in 2020, and once more in late 2025, and each time because Liberty had not yet secured an independent supply

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Solution is bottle of vodka, styrofoam and a rug.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's not going to do anything against a data center.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Aim for transformers and the machinery on the roof. Anything with pipes or fans or junction boxes. Steel core rounds if you can get em.

[–] RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

If this comes to pass .... time to destroy the grid, at least near the data center.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Vote for Trump... Get fucked by his buddies.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

It is trivial to safely short out a high voltage line.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Burn coal, Serfs! Your techlords demand your resources.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

How much mega corporations and the government give a fuck about people is becoming visceral these days.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago

There's an active agenda to simply exterminate humanity, replace us with machines, and there is no resistance.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hard to tell from the article how likely this is to happen. Their legal situation is very complicated and it sounds like they are still trying to figure out what can and cannot be done.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Supremely Court Ruling: The data center is supposed to open in one month, its not enough time to properly halt this plan now, so we rule in favor of the data center and electricity provider. Go find power elsewhere for your homes.

[–] notgold@aussie.zone -1 points 2 weeks ago

NV Energy sold its California electric assets to Liberty in 2009 and agreed to keep supplying power temporarily. That arrangement was extended in 2015, again in 2020, and once more in late 2025, and each time because Liberty had not yet secured an independent supply

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz -2 points 2 weeks ago

I did think the lead was something about permanent vacation in a planet is 50,000 Lake Tahoe's and committing crimes against grammar, and crimes against children, who boy glad that wasnt real