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[–] tonyn@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ChatGPT and other LLMs need access to tools for things like this just like you and I do. If you ask me how many seconds have elapsed since I started typing this, I would give you a convincing estimate. I would need a Casio watch to give you an exact answer.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Read the article. The AI can't even give a convincing estimate.

The point here is that LLMs will never be AIs. They are just text extruders. They are hideously over valued and they are upending society for all the wrong reasons

[–] webp@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This guy looks like a psychopath in every photo.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 month ago

its a requirement to be a CEO, especially tech CEO.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay, but just to be clear, the problem is not that it can't do a timer. The problem is that it claims to be able to and even produces a result which looks plausible. It means, you cannot trust it to do anything that you can't easily verify. If they could fix that overconfidence in a year, it would be much better.

[–] fox@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The overconfident tone is baked in. LLMs don't have knowledge or world models, and all text they produce is nothing more than statistical relation of input to output based on frequency of appearance and semantic closeness. Therefore you can train the things to lean towards doubtfulness (nobody will use them) or confidence (wow, it must be true if it's this certain). It's abusing the human tendency to anthropomorphize to sell a really shitty product.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What if we just, idk, handled those corner cases with something like a human created control system that follows a set of very specific instructions that always produce the same result.

Stick with me here. I know this is a radical idea. But, say you were able to parse the input from the user and map it to the same resulting, let's call it, function.

So, the user says something like "start a timer for 60 seconds" or "60 second timer please". Using a basic word mapping we could infer the confidence of English sentences and produce results.

We could even improve our results through automatic user feedback based on behavior and popularity of their mapping choices. Yes.

We could even do this for like multiple "features". Like have one "function" that maps requests to timers, another to setting an alarm, maybe even something radical like doing mathematical computations.

But, again, instead of throwing the input into a block box that burns massive compute power that we have no control of. We just. Write the box ourselves for very common tasks.

Idk, maybe I'm crazy. It probably wouldn't work. I'm probably just oversimplifying it.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

I mean that's basically the idea behind neurosymbolic AI, have the LLM deal with natural language input, convert it to a formal spec, and give it to a symbolic engine to execute https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.00813

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

Some sort of coding language... By god!

[–] yuri@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Haven't you just recreated Siri/Alexa/etc. now? I can't tell if this comment is sarcastic

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are jokingly suggesting that we invent programming. It's a good bit, you should upvote them

[–] yuri@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 month ago

I've unfortunately read so much slop where some claim to have discovered the next big thing that I couldn't see that this was an obvious joke. Now I feel like an idiot

[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

There's a guy on tiktok called Huskistaken (yes, i know) that demonstrates repeatedly just how useless chatgpt is.

The first video of his I saw was him playing a clip of altman stating that it doesn't have a timer and chat gpt countering that it does.

He then gets it to start a timer to time his long it takes him to run a mile and almost instantly tells it to stop. It tells him it was +7 minutes!