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[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 128 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If I were that Southerner, and some professor guy comes along, I would tell him such stories too.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 121 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I was baffled no one wrote here WHY anyone would do this. Here's the answer from the article:

Researchers say those who eat dirt do not do so to satisfy hunger or to meet a biochemical urge to acquire certain metals or minerals that might be missing from the diet. Rather, they do so because the practice has been learned culturally. Links Are Traced to West Africa

Dr. Frate said dirt eating is one of the few customs surviving among some Southern blacks that can be directly traced to ancestral origins in West Africa. Dirt-eating is common among some tribes in Nigeria today.

According to his research, Dr. Frate said it was not uncommon for slave owners to put masks over the mouths of slaves to keep them from eating dirt. The owners thought the practice was a cause of death and illness among slaves, when they were more likely dying from malnutrition.

[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 63 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Thanks for citing this, but it still doesn't explain why this custom has developed.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 46 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The most likely explanation is that kaolinite clay is known to reduce nausea and diarrhea.

https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/public-health/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2022.893831/full

[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I compost and a common practice is to throw a handful of your native soil into your pile when you start it, to inoculate it with local soil bacteria. Bacteria do most of the work in an active compost pile.

I wonder if people were getting some kind of gut flora benefit from this.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

What rational reason is there for people to eat cereal for breakfast?

Cereal was designed to prevent masturbation.

[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Cream of Wheat, not cream of meat.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 weeks ago

I'd say it does a pretty good job. I hardly ever jack off while eating Cheerios in the morning.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The cause of the cultural behavior usually has a purpose though.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago

In clinic, this is called pica.

Dirt is full of streptomyces species and spores. It's why dirt smells like dirt. Those species produce most of our antibiotics.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 99 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Calm down everyone. They dug it from preferred dirt, cooked it, and seasoned it with salt and vinegar. Serving size = about a handful. Lay's sells a product with those exact same specifications.

[–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Did... did you just compare dirt to salt and vinegar potato chips?

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

The chips are probably worse for you tbh

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

All of Ireland clenched their fists at this comment.

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

FYI Ireland didn't choose to be a potato monoculture, it was forced on them by the British. The famine that hit them was collateral damage from the British subjugation of Ireland in an attempt to maximize profit through cash cropping, displacing the agriculture that the Irish had been using to feed themselves.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ireland has only had taters for 400 years and the famine was caused by british landlords.

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[–] KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca 69 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Sometimes I scroll through, see an obvious shit post in what should not be a shit post sub. I go into the comments and they are all "yeah, it's true (personal example)" and I feel convinced a group of shit posters are just brigading the sub for the luls.

This is one of those moments.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 61 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Let me tell you about scrapple.

I, as a life-long midwestener moved out to the "south east" Atlantic coast for a bit. Stopped in a diner one morning and got some breakfast, and they asked if I wanted scrapple with my breakfast. Not my first time seeing it on a menu around there, so I asked what it was, and they told me it was like an omelet, but made with apple and potato shavings. "Alright" I say, as I am open to trying new foods...

"What in the whole grain pancakes kind of fuck is this?!" I thought when my plate arrived. It was quite literally cutting board scraps, with like one scrambled egg added to bind it all together. Literally rough and dirty potato skins, and the ends of tomatoes, I literally found a fucking apple stem in mine. I figured they were playing some kind of joke on me, but I looked around, and other people had the same thing, and they were eating it the fuck up. So I gave it a try. Needless to say, undercooked potato and apple skins were not appetizing. The texture was like eating slices of bicycle innertube, and the flavor was akin to licking a well used, but unwashed cutting board.

Anyway, that was my first and last time trying scrapple. Learn from my mistake, you have been warned.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've actually seen "scrapple" at the grocery store, but that was a sausage-shaped loaf of hydrated corn meal, bacon grease/lard, and the barest whiff of seasoning to make it resemble food. My girlfirend's mom was from the poor south, and actually craved this meal from time to time.

This rendition was also very lackluster. You couldn't beat the price, as it was cheapest thing in the breakfast isle by a wide margin, but it sure as hell tasted like it.

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

I ate "scrapple" once and it was delicious. Maybe it was cooked better?

I was visiting my ex's relatives in Philly and one insisted that I come with them to a diner before I left. "You have to try scrapple, but I won't tell you what's in it till you do" grin.

I agreed without hesitation. I'm Creole. I'm from the swamp. I eat spicy-hot boiled hard-shell roaches, and raw mud-snot still in their teetees for flavor, and alligator assholes and rice in pig guts. Anything can taste good if you season it right, and if it doesn't, it's not worse than things I love already.

The scrapple I had was delicious. It was also the most seasoned thing I had eaten up there. It wasn't "spicy", but there was a wide variety of spices and it was extra peppery. It tasted like very fatty/greasy, slightly sweet, peppered breakfast sausage. She told me what was in it while i was eating it, looking all mischievous. Then I gave her the above line about my heritage, laughed, told her that just makes it more amazing, and kept eating.

She looked both slightly disappointed and filled with admiration. She loved it too, and I think I gave what was for her a shameful delight, a little more power and pride.

I'd eat someone's favorite mud if it tasted good, and my guts would probably be stronger for it, gaining flora they have been missing for at least two generations.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m Creole. I’m from the swamp

Y'all have a rich culinary tradition that is world-renowned for its ability to pull amazing flavors out of everything, including the trees! I'm not at all surprised that the Creole rendition of this breakfast dish was top shelf.

I eat spicy-hot boiled hard-shell roaches, and raw mud-snot still in their teetees for flavor, and alligator assholes and rice in pig guts.

If you told me that said dishes were the real deal, prepared in a traditional manner, I'd tell you right then and there that I'll be having seconds. Hell, I'd beg for cooking lessons.

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Scrapple is made from the stuff that's not good enough to go in to hotdogs.

Source: I'm Pennsylvania Dutch, we invented it.

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[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not too sure about what the version of scrapple you received was, it sounds like some kind of bastardized hash, but scrapple is a common breakfast thing in the Mid-Atlantic/Delaware valley area.

The version I'm familiar with as a Philadelphian, admittedly doesn't sound a whole lot better on paper, but the actual eating experience sounds a lot more pleasant. It's basically pork scraps and organ meats simmered down until they're falling apart and mixed with cornmeal and buckwheat then formed into a mushy loaf, which is then sliced and fried.

You're not going to identify any particular piece of pork or anything else in it, it's a pretty uniform grey mush, and the only real texture comes from frying it to give the outside a nice crispiness. Nothing tough or chewy about it, you barely need to chew it, the texture is probably more like polenta (which it kind of is) than anything else you might be familiar with. It also usually doesn't contain any apple or potatoes.

It's not everyone's cup of tea, but if you find yourself near Philly don't let whatever you were served in the south turn you off from trying actual scrapple.

Parts of Ohio have goetta, which I think is supposed to be pretty similar to scrapple but with oatmeal instead of corn meal.

I've also heard of "livermush" and "liver pudding" being served in some parts of the south, which honestly sound like dead-ringers for scrapple to me, though I have some friends from the south who insist that they're different from and better than scrapple.

I feel like whatever you were served was some southerner trying to recreate something they heard described one time but never actually tried themselves, or just slapping the name on something without knowing that there's another dish out there with the same name.

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[–] plyth@feddit.org 50 points 3 weeks ago

In Germany, clay is sold in drugstores to cure digestion issues or as mineral supply for hair and nails. I think they knew what they were doing and were shamed out of continuing.

[–] boelder@lemmy.world 44 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As someone who grew up in the South, and lived as a teenager in the '80s, this is the first time I'm hearing about this 'practice', other than a diagnosis in the DSM.

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[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 40 points 3 weeks ago

At first I was imagining just a handful of dirt from a grassy patch - but it seems to be implied that they're actually eating clay - which I vaguely remember being told can help with a sore stomach.

However I'm also aware that clay can contain heavy metals, which baking can't remove, so I'm inclined to stay away and just have a bit of bread instead.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I've often heard some version of the suggestion that "kids should eat a pound of dirt by the time they're 5," to have healthy immune systems. The suggestion, as I've always understood it, is that kids should spend a lot of time outside, eating dirt incidentally from constantly being in nature, having dirty hands and dirt under their nails, tripping and falling in the dirt, breathing dirt kicked up while running around and rough housing, etc. Getting micro-exposure to lots of germs early through play to built up a strong immune response. I've never understood it to mean literal dirt eating, but now I wonder if that might be the origin.

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[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 weeks ago

It's still common to eat clay to get the minerals, help with digestion or reduce hunger in parts of Africa see the Contemporary practices section: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geophagia

[–] nycki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

we're getting punked, right? this is citogenesis? someone just made it up? does anyone have a primary source??

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I don't have a source, but when I was younger there were a few black kids in my school from super poor families, and their parents would put sugar and spices in clay for them for breakfast. It had some flavor and filled them up, even if there wasn't much nutritional value.

Then they finally added breakfast (instead of just lunch) to the free meal program for poor families when I was in late elementary, and they'd just eat at school.

A lot of kids only reliably get meals from school. In college, I got involved in a program with the food bank where we'd go to schools during their last period on Fridays and place backpacks full of food in the lockers of children from the poorest families. The blue bags we used were cheap and obvious, and we'd frequently find the previous week's bag still full. The kids were too embarrassed to get on the bus with the bags that identified them as poor.

So we had a fundraiser to buy 3 cheap but normal identical backpacks for each kid in the program. One for their everyday use, and 2 for the weekend food (we'd drop off a new one and take the previous week's bag for refilling). That way they'd swap their regular bookbag in their locker for the food bag and nothing looked unusual on the bus ride home.

I hadn't thought about that in a while. I need to make a donation to the food bank.

Also - give the food bank money, not food. They can buy food cheaper than you can, and they know what they actually need.

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[–] Mr_lobber_lobber@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

I remember reading this in a travel book from a danish author.

The person he asked about the custom was perplexed when he told him that he did not eat dirt.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

My doctor told me that vitamin B12 deficiency is common these days, because we get B12 from bacteria that live in dirt and with how cleanly our food is now, you just don't get the occasional dirt in your diet anymore (and the animals you might consume don't really get that either).

So, maybe¹ eating dirt might actually be healthy.


¹) Okay, no. Get B12 supplements. They're almost as cheap as dirt and don't give you illnesses.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

My knock off 5 hour energy gives me 20,000% of my daily dose of B12!

[–] NIB@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

B12 isnt easily absorbed by the body, thats why supplements and food have wild daily portions, so even if you pee most of it, you still absorb some.

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[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It was common among black women in certain communities in rural Alabama and Mississippi - not a common nationwide practice of all americans.

[–] probable_possum@leminal.space 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Monkeys on Gibraltar do it, too. To treat stomach aches when they ate unhealthy. There is an abundance of bad food for them which they steal from tourists.

Should you start eating dirt now? You shouldn't, scientists say. Germs.

[–] Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

After cooking with high heat there should be no germs left. As stated in the article there are no health risks involved except if you eat such a large amount it blocks your intestines. Also even if you didn't cook it the germs that live in soil are not the same germs that make you sick, those you get from your fellow humans.

[–] Krusty@quokk.au 34 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Also even if you didn’t cook it the germs that live in soil are not the same germs that make you sick, those you get from your fellow humans.

Ya, sure, you've obviously never heard of gardia, tetanus, botulism, histoplasmosis, anthrax, E coli, salmonella, and the ever popular listeria. Plus you could pick up a party of parasites and worms.

Very pastoral. Very grounding. Touch grass, acquire necrotizing fasciitis.

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[–] Mearcfara@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There is a lot of authoritative speculation in the comments on this one

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Dirt (especially clay) is often rich in iron and magnesium. Humans used to use ceramic pottery extensively until recently. It wouldn't surprise me if there were some benefits.

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[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

To learn more about earth-eating in animals and humans, check out the Wikipedia page on geophagia.

[–] maikuuuuuu@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When I was a kid (sometime in the early 90s in Philadelphia) I remember something coming on the news about women eating dirt. I always thought about it and wondered “why was that on the news..?” (since I was a kid and wasn’t paying attention), but now I know. This was an interesting read. Thanks for sharing

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

In South Epsteinia they eat dirt. And they only season it with salt and vinegar because they're white.

[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 10 points 3 weeks ago

Several of my great aunts and uncles did this. And yeah, after they moved away they would have small boxes of dirt shipped to them from family that stayed behind.

White, Volga German descended farmer people, moved from the Midwest to the West Coast US.

[–] 5765313496@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Astrophage, eat your heart out.

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