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[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 45 points 2 days ago

Well that’s a fresh new level to our already nightmarish hellscape

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 37 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This requires training on the specific network that you want to target, so unless the snoop has several weeks worth of training data where they know exactly what room you're in at what time, then it's not a realistic attack. Someone who has that much inside information doesn't need this technology to know where in the building you are.

[–] Carnelian@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What’s stopping someone from just deploying their own wifi networks around, similar to flock cameras?

Presumably, the room itself. This isn't about the router so much as the shape of the room and the way the waves move through the room in terms of data.

[–] NoosFraba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't think anyone choosing this method cares about a week or two. That's a payday my guy, you could blink. I live my life two weeks at a time and years have gone by in seconds =P

[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, you use it to map out an empty office and then to surveil workers?

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It has to be trained on the disturbances in the EM field that people create so no, an empty office wouldn't train it.

[–] certified_expert@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

But... if the router collects the data... it is just a matter of time. The room will stay constant. People will change. And there you have the fundamental information to infer ID

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Meanwhile my wife doesn't recognize me when I come home from work =/

[–] Damage@feddit.it 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Have you tried updating her radio's firmware?

[–] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 8 points 2 days ago

I'm the one with the firmware, she has the wetware.

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 2 points 2 days ago

tunin' in to Tokyo, yo.

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago

By chance, are you a Child Psychologist?

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well this needs to made illegal to use.

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 14 points 2 days ago

Doubt that will stop the US government.

But as someone else said above, if they have this much access to the place where they can gather the training data necessary to fine tune this to figure out where you are and track you through the space, they don't need this.

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

But then only the bad guys will have it!

[–] suxen_tsihcrana@anarchist.nexus 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Looks like that faraday suit will be coming in handy after all! And to think my wife made fun of me for it!

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

wait, you can talk about Faraday cages And have a wife ??!!

i thought it was either or but now I am sus

[–] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 6 points 2 days ago

Would totally marry a cute girl talking about Faraday cages informally because marriage is a property arrangement between two people and their state which my beloved and I would not have

[–] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 2 days ago

Oh yeah, nothing says anonymity like that

[–] i078@europe.pub 2 points 2 days ago

Chainmail for LARP’ing you can now designate as something somehow less nerdy?

wondering if I can line an existing hat with tinfoil rather than having to fashion a new one.

[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

I’m pretty sure it self-destructs if you enter “Lucius Fox” into the command console and hit enter.

[–] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago
[–] Klox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I always thought it would be sweet to have a whole house camera to see inside your walls. Knowing where all your pipes are, knowing where voids are, maybe detecting leaks inside your walls, animal/rodent detection, etc. Antenna arrays in GHz bands should be able to have pretty good resolution on metallic reflectors. I guess add intruder detection too. If our privacy is being violated outside our homes, I'd at least like to leverage for some good inside my home.

[–] vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This bounces off of walls, for the most part, so it will do the exact opposite of what you want. It will show you everything inside the house, not everything inside the walls.

[–] Klox@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I don't think so. Drywall is fairly transparent to GHz, but I guess depends on if your home is made of sticks or something sturdier. People reflect better, which AFAIK is what this technology is highlighting.

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah I was thinking the higher the frequency the less penetration. GHz definite isn't penetrating through walls too good.

[–] AlmightyDoorman@kbin.earth 1 points 2 days ago

This has a lot of dystopian uses, but I also hope that it can be used by the open source community for home automation. That could be really great.