How arrogant the Israeli leadership was to think it couldn’t happen to them when it’s been happening on the Ukrainian battlefield for a few years now. With Iranian-made drones no less.
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Seriously, given how interconnected all these conflicts are, I’m convinced we are in WWIII,
No one said it has to have more deaths than the last one to be considered a world war
It probably already has, tbh.
2.6 million russian kia, more wounded - Russian economists in russian economic forums in public made a claim of 600k dead russians per year of war
That's exaggerated. While real numbers are not known, Ukraine reports around 1,000 casualties per day but only around third or less of that are dead, others are injured.
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I’m convinced we are in WWIII
I've heard people speculate that it's more like WW5 or 6, depending on how you want to count global conflicts between superpowers.
But from the US perspective, we're a far cry from the kind of Total War we engaged in during the 40s.
This war only feels existential if you're on the receiving end.
Israel's genocide is actually a sideshow. The real war is the fossil fuel industry versus the survival of humanity. Economics is no longer on their side, so they are using force, bribery, subversion, surveillance, the kitchen sink. We need to completely destroy them and asset-strip them. That'll end the oil sheikhs, Putin, the global astroturf anti-environmentalist movement, and a few assholes in Texas and Alberta too.
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After getting away with genocide in Gaza and the assadination of Nassrallah, they got arrogant and thought Hizbollah was not for
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The footage was published about a week ago by Hezbollah, a Lebanon-based pro-Iranian militia, which Germany, the US and several Sunni Arab states have classified as a terrorist organization.
And where's the parenthetical comma for Israel?
Israel, the arpartheid Jewish ethnostate, has been globally condemned for its violation of human rights and massive bombings with civilian casualties, is currently invading Lebannon in an effort to expand its territory.
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Oh no, do you hear that Israel? The faint buzzing off in the distance? That's the sound consequences make when they're getting closer.
Oh my god I get to watch a smiting with my own eyes. The cycle is nearly complete!
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God has rules
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God's rules have loopholes
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God gets angry
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Get smote, nerd!
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Ok, new rules!
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Return to step 1.
They will literally do it until the heat death of the universe or until they're wiped out.
That's the problem with religion.
In theory it's quite good most religions tell you to be nice and kind to each other, the problem is if you break those rules nothing actually happens to you, no God comes down from the heavens and strikes you down with righteous lightning. In fact not only does nothing happen to you but the establishment set up to promote the religion now protects you from the consequences of you breaking the religions own rules.
Might as well just become an investment banker, at least they don't pretend to have rules.
That's a problem with religion lol
It seems that Iron Dome,like the Patriot, are desgned for the last war, not the current war. Asymmetric deployment of volumes of small&cheap units will overload these systems, or at least cost your opponent too much.
Even aganst peer weapons thay are onlyildly successful. In Ukraine the patriots have intercepted Kinzals,bit will never be able, nor cost effective against Oreshniks (as the split too early)
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I did see footage of a drone attacking an Iron Dome site. Looked legit for what it's worth. Literally flew right up to it. Unfortunately no footage of the aftermath from what I saw. Must have been quite the explosion though. Anyway, this is hopeful news. Let's hope they keep this up and force Israel to back the fuck off.
Literally flew right up to it
Because you don't see the 99.99% that were stopped at the defenses, that's why a "swarm attack" would be so devastating.
It's basically the attack scene from Zion in The Matrix. A steady flow of (relatively) inexpensive attack drones. Most will fail, for a very very long time nothing gets thru. But eventually one slips thru or defenses need to reload, but one slips thru and hits something.
If it hits something important, it's now easier for every single one to get thru.
This was likely just proof of concept.
Send a wave out, aim at something random, and don't stop till one gets thru. That is invaluable Intel for when/where to aim a swarm attack. They don't need to breach everywhere, just one small section bearing insurmountable odds.
It would turn Iran into a super power on the world stage
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There is only one guarantee for Israeli security and that's peace, deradicalization/dezionization (in the Matzpen sense, not in the ridiculous Yemelyanov sense), reparations, truth and reconciliation.
May all day in Israel be like this!
That looks like a very safe, cost effective and extremely sustainable way to live. Definitely a normal country.
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I've been wondering about this for a while, but what does it cost to maintain the iron dome when your batteries are depleted and the missiles are on backorder? It's not like literally anyone else is fielding this equipment, so what happens when the only customer suddenly needs a tall order every week?
Under normal economic conditions, a tamir missile costs about $80k, and a shahed drone costs about $30k (and dropping). These are not normal conditions, and I expect that Israel is going to have spotty coverage in the coming years.
The worst part is that I'm sure Netanyahu and his ilk have priced all this in and agreed that the casualties and long-term dependence on foreign funding and ordnance is a fair trade for the additional territory. I really hope the Israeli people disagree.
I think that's the point when they take it to the 'negotiating table' and try to keep what they've taken.
Having said that Israel has a large multilayered antiair defense that isn't just iron dome. They have SPYDER, helos with the APKWS, and it's own CIWS systems, plus they are rushing SMASH Hopper (AI driven improvised gun mount). Which isn't to say your point is wrong, they will run out.
Also these last several years has turn people and their political leaders off Israel, which I mention as it just compounds the economics of this. Israel needs a functioning economy and foreign aid to sustain it, but has been turning off it's partners. Although yes, the US seems to be an exception in this, mostly from a leader stand point.
They're certainly making an impressive go of it, but I don't see anything in their arsenal that's going to survive sustained attacks.
SPYDER is so comically expensive that resisting long range drones will bankrupt the country, and automated turrets, while much better from a price per kill perspective, simply don't have the range of other solutions (hundreds of meters at best rather than 40km of SPYDER or 5km of iron dome).
A better solution for the drones in the OP might be the new Rheinmetall platforms with airburst ammunition, but I'm not sure Israel can procure those in the numbers necessary to cover their defenses or infrastructure.
Rheinmetall platforms with airburst ammunition
There's a reason you might not want to be firing shrapnel explosives over the heads of your own citizens.
But hey, it's Israel. Maybe they don't give a shit.
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Thats what America a is there for
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Never going to not smirk at the israelis getting an L.
But be wary of media coverage of these kinds of drones. If you listen to The News, they are the greatest paradigm shift ever and you should totally give the military industrial complex even more trillions of dollars to find a solution!
The reality is that they are a lot closer to mortars than not. Comparatively short range and low payload weapons that are ridiculously cheap. Against an entrenched position with minimal defenses, they are devastating. But, ironically, most of the same defenses against mortars apply here too. They just tend to be ridiculously effective in Ukraine due to a mix of propaganda and how incredibly undisciplined russian conscripts are (see also: the idiots falling off of aircraft carriers in the us military). And... we aren't THAT far off of basically connecting small arms, sensors, and simple motors up to shoot drones out of the sky in areas where we don't care about collateral damage from falling bullets.
Don't get me wrong. Cheap drones have very much changed the battlefield. But... closer to "affordable" night vision gear equalizing things rather than the initial advent of (good) night vision gear basically turning rich (read: US) militaries into invisible killing machines.
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\o/
It's a new kind of war when one of your best defences is a jar of pickles.
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