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Can anyone tell this meme is true or false? I don't have Gspy so I cannot test this

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[–] _lunar@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

never in my life have i ever said "hey" anything to my phone and i intend to keep it that way

[–] anakin78z@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Thanks for chiming in about how special you are. I would not have known otherwise. Have a good rest of your day.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 2 points 21 hours ago

Well that doesn't mean it isn't listening. Waiting for the day.

[–] baconsunday@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago (6 children)

i love all the hate google gets

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The meme makes it sound like they turn off the server transmit feature. Though I also could believe this meme being false as well. "Ok Google" detection runs locally on the device as training a model to detect that and only that accurately without a server is easy to do and costs a lot less than having every device continuously transmitting the microphone. So it's possible mute just disables transmission to the Internet rather than the mic.

[–] nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de 115 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Don't know about Google home, but google meet is definitely like this. You mute your mic from the UI, you speak, and a small popup tells you something like, "are you trying to speak, your mic is off".

Something like this also happened on Short Circuit (a channel of Linus Tech Tips) when testing Meta Glasses. Riley, the host was talking to it, and after the convo ended, he asked, "are you still listening?" And meta replied, "No".

So, yes, it is safe to assume that the microphones are always listening and probably recording. These things are spywares and do not belong in private places like homes.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 87 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Muting microphone in a meeting is very different, the point is you don't want other attendees to hear you, not the meeting software.
Otherwise agreed, the only way this can be 100% trusted is using a hw switch, which we won't find on any phones and only a handful of laptops.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world -1 points 21 hours ago

I'd be happy with just being able to open something up and confirm that the mute button controls a solenoid that cuts the actual line to the mic but everything is so damn tiny for no apparent reason. You'd have to break it either way just to find out.

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[–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Guys, ten or hundred of thousands security researchers have been going at this for years. Google isn't secretly listening to you.

These things work with 2 mics, and 2 different circuits. The recording mic is one, while the detection mic is another. The second mic is only capable of pattern matching.

So yeah it's on but only capable of hashing a 5 second recording and matching it to your voice (this shit works a lot like rsa keys if that's helpful) to serve as a wake word. Maybe flag a simple response.

All that's happening is the device heard a loud sound and knows it wasn't a match or what's expected.

[–] KaChilde@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You’ll have to forgive me if I don’t believe that those fuckers are being honest and open with our data.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

That's the neat thing, you don't have to believe: the researchers proved that it works like that.

Of course that only applies to the models they tested, and not future ones, but still.

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[–] Tidesphere@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Every time someone comes out and says that the phones aren't secretly listening to us, I gotta tell this story.

I was at one time practicing therapy in a University. We did charity work, and I was providing therapy to a homeless man. This homeless man did not have a phone, or any electronic devices of any kind. We kept in contact via email, and he would use library computers in order to connect with us.

While providing therapy for him, the only electronic devices in the room are a batter operated digital clock, a battery operated voice recording device, and my own cell phone, locked and inactive. Nothing but my cell phone is connected to wifi or internet of any kind.

During session one day, he started talking about wanting to move to another country. We hold our usual session, with plenty of talk about moving to that country specifically. Once the session is over, we say goodbye and he goes on his way. I go back to my desk, and within an hour or so, scrolling on my phone, I'm getting advertisements for flights and vacations to that exact country. I had never gotten advertisements to that country before, or even for much travel in general.

So how do we explain it? The most common answer is "Oh, well he used his phone to look up flights and stuff, and google detected that your phones were near each other, and must have assumed that you would talk about it."

Except the other man did not have a phone, nor did he have any way for Google to tell that he was near me after having looked it up at a local library. There was no way for Google to be able to tell that he was coming to our office at all unless it was reading his emails, and even then, it couldn't know that he was talking to me specifically, such that I would get the targeted ads and none of my colleagues would.

Nobody can give me an explanation for what happened other than my phone was actively listening to the conversation. I'm definitely open to alternatives, I promise. Nobody has been able to explain it.

[–] DoubleDongle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I get ads in Spanish if my phone hears me use a rotary saw a lot. I used to think it was from working near Spanish-speaking work crews, or purchasing lumber, but it's happened from isolated backyard projects using materials that had been bought with cash weeks prior. The adbots are listening, and they think power tool noises are a dialect of Spanish.

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[–] dudesss@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 days ago (45 children)

f-droid's website https://f-droid.org/ has a link to https://keepandroidopen.org/ which says in Google will lock down Android in September,

If you were planning on reformatting your phone to GrapheneOS, LineageOS, PostmarketOS, or UbuntuTouch, now is the time to do it.

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[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's not true anymore, but Alexa's used to only listen for specific keywords using a low-energy local-only chip.

It has since changed, as stated, and I have to assume other vendors followed suit.

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[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

It's true for hardware that has dedicated low-power keyword detection hardware. I know my Pixel 1 had this behaviour. Haven't tested it on my current phone since I actually have it enabled...

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I turned off "ok google" detection in my phone. Still it triggers incorrectly from the car radio sounding similar to "ok google". In theory turning off the detection should mean that the assistant only starts when I tap the microphone icon, but that's not my experience.

I can confirm, google is always listening, and it's not even very good at pretending not to.

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