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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago

Failure? Pretty sure the oligarchy is getting exactly what they want.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They've been able to effectively convince the k-hive that it wasn't their failure; that it was the failure of voters. Those convinced of this narrative are the biggest threat to being able to stop fascism using electoral or other tools.

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

For decades, we've always heard from them it's someone else's fault when we fail.

[–] thlibos@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Thankfully she has zero chance of getting the nomination...I'm terrified it's going to be Buttgieg

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Buttigeig is an empty suit you pour money into then it stands up and walks around. His primary claim to fame was sabotaging Bernie in 2020. And apparently being an "excellent" transportation secretary (you know, while fucking over unions under biden) I guess. I'm not saying they aren't a threat but they're so far up Ezra Kleins ass I don't see how they can pretend they aren't anything but a thirdway walking cat-turd.

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[–] Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't worry. It'll actually be newsome.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Or Pritzker, Or shapiro who is their real favorite. But one hard core zionist is the same as any other really. Even Mark Kelly is a committed zionist. AIPAC would be fine with him, and people seem to support him for no other reason than he's a Nasa guy. Thats all centrist dems seem to need.

[–] YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think AOC has a better chance than he does.

[–] thlibos@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

AOC has no chance of securing the Dem nomination unless she signals the DNC and Dem donors that she is now a died in wool capitalist who will play deep state ball.

[–] YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Plenty of dems are winning without the support of the DNC and their donors, Bernie came close too and I think most of the party base regrets not choosing Bernie in 2016.

We will see what happens.

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 41 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What failure? They've done their job perfectly as controlled opposition. The real failure is people expecting anything else from them.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm tired of having the same discussion over and over again with neo-liberals that they aren't anywhere near left and their mandates of "less harm" or "lesser of two evils" doesn't work anymore. So they have no actual platform or real plans for anything substantial that would be secured. Letting things float on in good faith.

[–] Freeposity@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lesser of two evils is just for general elections where you only have two choices and you need to slow the rise of fascism.

Progressives need to get on with primarying the fuck out of establishment Democrats. When you have a progressive running against a fascist in the general, polls have shown that the progressive ideas will win....if the voters are focused on policy rather than succumbing to emotional manipulation.

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[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

Preach. I'm pretty far left and I am constantly being spammed for money by Dem fundraising. I tell them they can pry it out of my cold dead fingers, or they can come up with a platform better than, "well at least we aren't trump."

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Whatever is behind Samuel L. Jackson (seat cushions?) looks like a pack of hotdogs.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Diner seat cushions, but now they will forever be hotdogs.

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[–] Major_Tsiom@fedia.io 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Democrats are a capital party just like the Republicans. We do not have a labor party in the US. Fascists and racists have their Republican Party, but liberals only have the lesser evil. There is no loyalty. We need a third party to represent labor. The two party/winner take all system is a fucking joke.

[–] BooBees@fedinsfw.app 15 points 1 month ago

There are third parties, they’ve even spoiled some elections. I think you mean a VIABLE third party.

The lesser evil of fascism is still fascism. Just with a pride flag in June.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

You have a party that is desperate to go back to a past utopia that never existed and another that is determined to maintain a status quo that absolutely failed.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Democratic socialista need to change their name to the labor party and start championing Bernie's message of the past 40 years. Appealing to people on the right and left

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 14 points 1 month ago

This is exactly the scenario that the Democratic party is working so hard to quash.

[–] Snowies@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Is not that they don’t know.

All of them know.

The moderate Democrat politicians know they are a doormat for the corporate donor class. They refuse to enact meaningful change because then they lose their corporate donor money (and they’d have to do real work.)

MAGA politicians know they are betraying America to be a doormat for Donald Trump. They refuse to stand up to him because then they lose their billionaire donor money/Trump pardon protection (and they’d have to grow a conscience).

Our government has been captured by dejected cynics and sadistic sociopaths who only work for and represent people with a lot of money.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

This is by design. A country for the rich by the rich from the start. And people have the gall to act surprised at the corruption that was there from the start. Our first President was set to become the world's first billionaire adjusted for inflation. If he had not died so young he would have.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One thing that really sucks about today's world is that everything seems too big to fail.

Shitty car dealers? Sorry can't remove them. Shitty banks? Sorry too powerful. Shitty cable? Sorry it's the only option. Shitty cellular? Sorry only service. Shitty political party? Sorry other option is worse.

Capitalism has a way of squeezing everything into a few hands where we are basically fucked once it reaches the end stage.

The problem is that during the run up you seem to get better service / value as it's fighting for the top spot, but once there you are totally fucked.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

The problem is that during the run up you seem to get better service / value as it’s fighting for the top spot, but once there you are totally fucked.

This is the essence of enshittification

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Democrats win by failing. For their corporate bankrollers.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like a boxer getting paid to throw a match?

[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago

Exactly like that, except the paying is a few steps removed so it "doesn't count as bribery"

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (7 children)

In my long study of history there is always a tipping point. 1789, 1840, 1905, 1917 - people just took power back, or made a serious effort to do the same. Not that it was perfect either. The history of humanity is one of struggle against the elites.

In the case of the US, corporations being recognised as actual living, breathing human beings only made revolution a certainty. The only question is when? I'm an old fart, so I hopefully won't be around to see the inevitable chaos.

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[–] Freeposity@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Weird that AIPAC isn't mentioned at all in the comments.

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[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Whoa... Big news. They're determined about something.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

As a European trying to work out the policy differences between Republicans and Democrats, they don't seem to be significant. Mainly how elements are interpreted /expressed during campaigns or counter campaigns.

Question for our American cousins: Is this because it's (overall) what the US population wants to buy into with votes or would a less Ultracapitalism stance not have enough interest?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If a less capitalist party magically appeared with the capital to compete it would sweep the democrats and republicans out of office. The economic grind for no apparent gain is consistently one of the top issues in elections. It just turns out that 100 million dollars of ads can absolutely convince people that this year the politicians will actually help them.

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is incredibly difficult if not impossible to start a new party. You need grassroots campaigns in every state and district just to even get on the ballot. It’s intentionally hard to form a new party because the constitution was designed in such a way to discourage group think and parties.

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[–] realitista@lemmus.org 5 points 1 month ago

At this point I assume more malicious intent than incompetence.

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This is why getting a third party Going and Voted is important.

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[–] GodofLies@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

They know. They just insist that their ideology is all that matters and everyone should just "shut up and follow" and somehow it will all work out. This is what established politicians (read as in this case: establishment democrats/career politicians) standby. We know this doesn't work.

This is why people need to start voting for actual progressives. Look at what they say versus what they vote for. Compared to who is challenging them.

Then match it with the outcomes of those voted on policies. Is it so hard? Because I know a good amount of people can't seem to even bother.

Add in the bit of, "how do you know the challenger will actually be faithful on their promises?". Well, clearly the status quo (aka, the same person you elect in) isn't going to make the change you want, so why keep them?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Are people still pretending they don't understand it was written by a single freelancer?

That the people now running the DNC, didn't run it during 2024?

Because I legitimately don't understand how anyone who only knew those two facts, would still be blaming the people running the DNC since 2025 for what this report says was done wrong in 2024...

So it seems like the safe assumption, is people don't understand at least one of those two things. Most likely both.

Especially when they repeat "Democrats won't learn their lesson" literally half a term deep into the DNCs pivot away from neoliberalism. To think they haven't learned the lesson yet, just means that person hasn't paid attention since Biden lost the election.

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's still bad that the most generous interpretation is the DNC is being fleeced by incompetent freelancers.

It also implies that the DNC has little interest in understanding why they lost. No mention of Biden's age, even if to say it had no effect. No mention of Gaza, even if to say it had no effect.

If they have a better post-mordem, that does explore these topics I'd love to see it.

It makes it seem like they weren't that serious about beating Trump if they're still willing to hire incompetent people that avoid tough analysis.

Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer are still the House and Senate leader for the dems. Jefferies is Pelosi's handpicked successor.

What part of the leadership do you believe has changed? What are their names?

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Why start now?

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