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I just spent two weeks in tropical Cairns, Australia, a few of those days were out in the sun, snorkeling, fishing, bush walking. So I decided to test what I figured was a myth of meat making you proof against sunburn. I skipped sunscreen.

A light tan is supposed to be about SPF4 (Sun protection factor 4, stay in the sun 4x as long without burning, sunscreen is usually above SPF50) and my face, arms and legs had a little tan left over from summer. My back, chest, stomach, and shoulders were northern European white.

Two hours snorkeling was enough to get my shoulders burned enough to peel, my back got lightly burned. I guess I didn't point my stomach at the sun much. That's less burning than last time I spent a couple of hours in the sun with my shirt off, so I think there was some protection.

My friend I was traveling with told me that my face was bright red, I could see the red in my arms, but that all just turned to tan.

Last time I got burned enough to peel, it hurt. This time, it just itched as it peeled and felt very hot if I pointed that part of me at the sun for a couple of days.

While fishing I had my arms in the sun, with the un-tanned inside of my right arm getting hours of sunlight. That reddened, but didn't burn enough to peel. and now more of the inside of my right arm is tanned.

My thoughts:

  • You burn about as quickly
  • It hurts a lot less
  • You can get a bit more sun without it peeling
  • Once you get tanned you really don't get burned anymore
  • If you tan and you spend time outside you'll tan as soon as the sun gets above 50 degrees above the horizon. For me that's early Spring for minutes a day through to mid summer where it's hours a day.
  • You can get through a mid-summer day's UV with a deep tan.

To lots of people with episodes outside, or doing outside sport as the low sun of early spring turns into the high sun of summer, so solar UV dose slowly rises over months it would seem like immunity, getting tanned before burning enough to peel.

But if you go from nothing to hours under the summer sun meat won't be enough to protect whichever part of you is most pointed at the sun, but it will make the damage less severe and heal quicker, since unnecessary swelling will be suppressed.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 3 hours ago

For anybody following at home, don't try this party trick until your 3 months plant free. We are not sure of the exact mechanisms involved, but people on keto don't have the same experience.

[–] mech@feddit.org 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Just a heads-up:
If your skin doesn't peel, or doesn't hurt, or the sunburn turns into a tan -
Hell even if you don't even get a visible sunburn...

The UV-radiation STILL ages your skin and increases your chances of cancer.
Wear sunscreen, folks!

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

We know a load about that in Australia. We know that each sunburn increases your risk of melanoma. I did this once to test a myth tied to this diet. It's not like I'm out there all the time.

Wear sunscreen

We had an advertising campaign for several decades "Slip, Slop, Slap da, da in the sun this summer say slip slop slap" That's slip on a shirt, slop on sunscreen and slap on a hat. Othopedic surgeons say "slip slop crack" due to the vitamin D deficiency that ad campaign caused and the increase in fractures.

The new advice in the world capital of skin cancer (Australia) is "Get enough mid day sunlight for your skin type before you cover up" My skin is type III so I need 10 minutes/day for my white skin, or about an hour for my tanned skin. The sun doesn't get high enough at all during winter, and for less than 10 minutes during late autumn or early spring.

Sunscreen is surprisingly subtly dangerous.

[–] xep@discuss.online 1 points 3 hours ago

If you must wear it, mineral based sunscreen appears to be the safer choice.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Nice data! I'm glad your sharing the experiment.

After you got out of the sun, did you have pain or a classic can't-touch-my-skin burn?

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

No pain at all. I did wear a shirt for the next few days to not exacerbate it

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That matches my test as well. Red, and the skin felt hot, but no pain and I could touch the skin like normal.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

Now I'm looking forward to 3 months when the sun never gets high enough above the horizon to create vitamin D, so more fish for me this winter

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I should add, I have type III skin, I'm white but tan easily. As a kid when I spent all summer in the swimming pool my hair was sun bleached blonde and my skin was copper coloured.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

might help somewhat for the effects of a burn, but it's still not healthy.

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/latest-news/is-getting-a-base-tan-safe.html

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 5 hours ago

"Said an expert". It then goes on to say to protect yourself from the sun all the time which is advice that will give you broken bones in the Australian experience. If you follow that advice, eat a lot of fatty fish, it's the only other good source of vitamin D.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

A Canandian telling an Australian to be careful with the sun? I mean, thanks mate.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

i've lived places at least as bad for sun exposure as anywhere in australia. and no, i'm not canadian, either. the internet's global. you should hook up to it.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

No worries, sorry for assuming you chose a .ca instance due to being Canadian. And here was me thinking Australia was unique in being illuminated during summer through the ozone hole.