I found that there were two stories, one with with emporers which was really compelling and another story with the Foundation which was really dull which is why I give it an overall rating of 5/10

“Aaand here’s episode 3, it’s 200 years later and all the characters you saw before are dead. Moving on!”

I read the entire series as well. Seems pretty much on story line to me? They don't go into as great of detail (kind of with they dug into the library's work more and psychohistory), but seems pretty much what I remember.

I've never heard of it before but I am gonna pick up the first book next week now.

Honestly, I'm just rewatching The Expanse (6th time) instead. 🤌🏼

I love the books. I've read the original trilogy three times, as well as heard the BBC radio dramatization (from the 1970s). My anticipation for this series was sky-high.

Halfway through Season One I stopped watching, baffled in an uninterested way about how they dropped everything that had the original Foundation spirit, I recognized the names of most characters and some planets, but everything in between was crammed with Goyer's self-important posturing, insistence on mystery boxes and artificial cliffhangers.

The books will live on, they are immortal. The series, not so much, it will age quickly and badly.
Thank God we also have Villeneuve and Dune right now.

I also loved the books and I think this might be the difference. It’s only very loosely based on the books. Those who seem to enjoy the show often haven’t read the books at all, or don’t have much of a connection with them.

I just wish Hollywood would stop butchering such amazing IP. They should create new IP if they have such disdain for the original content.

The only parts of the show I enjoyed was the segments about the Emperor(s), which was a completely new invention of the show. It felt like somehow the writing A-team had snuck off to make some kind of weird original scifi thing, while the B-team was writing the “main” Foundation centered plot.

Putting aside any love for the books, I found the Foundation sections to be bad on their own terms. I stopped watching when the gang did a Call Of Duty mission into a ghost ship.

Yeah. I'm not a fan of this "in name only" practice. And being a fan of the books, and the greater Asimov universe, I did struggle at first.

Once I accepted how completely they were going to abandon the original, I did manage to enjoy what they did produce. It wasn't weaker so much as just a completely different beast.

Going into S2 with this expectation, if the quality is as high as in S1, it should be well worth a watch.

(I can't say the same of Wheel of Time. The TV series is just weaker, it's a mess, a bigger mess than the first book which definitely had its issues. Damn shame, I really was hoping for an attempt to stay closer to the source without Rafe 'updating it' for what he thinks Jordan would have written today)

Hell, I was on the fence by that point, but when the teacher-student romance BS setup was nauseatingly obvious — and then they actually opened with it the very next episode?! FFS. What is this, Outlander-in-space? Ge' tae fucc.

I’m also not a fan of a series that turns books that are grounded in science and believability into a story featuring people with magic abilities like precognition and magic powers.

For me, the "grounded in science" ship had already sailed by the end of the original trilogy, when

I'm not going to shit on your excitement, I just want to give my perspective (and I liked the show!).

You're right, this is a series that "builds a world". The main grip I (as many others) have, in relation to the books, is that the books build a universe and a whole history, in addition to the series. The characters themselves, aside from Hari Seldon and a couple of others, are relatively unimportant, and that's the beauty of it: it's a way of showing how psychohistory works, by not focusing on the individual but the whole society around them.

This, of course, is quite difficult to translate to screen, but having one character being "the special one" goes really against the whole spirit of the worldbuilding set in the books (and that's why I'm quite interested in seeing how they portray The Mule). The gender and ethnicity changes I couldn't care less, but these kind of things... eh, they strip the story of what made it special in the first place.