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examples of infighting on the right:

  1. support israel vs hate israel
  2. multicultural liberal state where we oppress minorities for money anyway vs strictly white welfare state
  3. islam is based vs islam must be eradicated
  4. christianity is based vs christianity is jew, only paganism
  5. judaism is based vs judaism is a disgusting religion and everybody who practices it has to die
  6. all white people good vs slavs and irish dirty
  7. russia is based white state vs russia is evil wants to destroy us
  8. get in interracial relationship with poor minorities strictly to abuse them vs strictly white on white relationships
  9. i love japan vs japan is evil because they killed whites and they deserved to be bombed
  10. china is evil marxist state vs. china is disciplined and educated unlike blacks, whites must copy them
  11. democrat vs republican election usually once every 4 years
  12. elections in europe
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[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Right infighting is, in practical senses, like WWE. The right already has a chokehold on political power (where we live) so the fighting is grift-oriented. The infighting is not an existential threat to their movement.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Also, the right tends to have easy time forming big tent coalitions because they usually organize around things they hate and have nothing constructive to offer. Racists, homophobes, and all kind of different bigots have no problem uniting around hating poor and marginalized people. Meanwhile, people on the left actually want to do constructive things, and hence why we end up having disagreements on what the right way to improve society is.

[–] Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

So... Herding cats vs herding cattle?

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 55 minutes ago

good way to put it

[–] demeritum@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 16 hours ago

Its liberal memetic imperialism to basically browbeat leftist and consume the revolutionary energy for their own.

A very common abusive gaslighting technique is to plant an idea that will eventually blossom into a problem which you will have conveniently have the answer for.

For example someone who is preparing to expel a friend from a friend group might start to add small unpleasant addendums therefore marking the friend as the problem friend. By repeating the lie that the left is always infighting, they create the appearance of actual infighting being such an exceptional issue for “the left” (the supposed unity between the fundamental opposition of reforming capitalism and abolishing capitalism lest not speak of.) after all it is a given in human communication that repetition gives rise to consensus and gives rise to “reality” (we as marxist believe that there still is an measurable reality that is knowable to us those who deny that are neo-positivist)

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

There is no infighting in the imperialist west because there is only one sovereign player, the US, everyone else is completely captured, one way or another, by american imperialism.

The sino-soviet split is the most famous infighting event that it has happened, and it shows that communist nations are in fact sovereign. Could you imagine Europe splitting from the US, by their own sovereign choice?

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Could you imagine Europe splitting from the US, by their own sovereign choice?

Yeah, actually. I think it's still fairly unlikely but I could imagine it.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

We'll see, i am more of the idea that the US will cannibalize Europe and drop it when convenient, Europe will never distance themselves out of their own will.

[–] Maeve@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

Either way, Europe has already developed European class consciousness, so getting rid of the ticking time bomb that also serves as a ball and chain, maybe class consciousness to the South and East has a greater chance of developing.

[–] ForNow@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 17 hours ago

It's probably a propaganda technique to make leftists see themselves as weak and ineffective. Dividing the left is great for the ruling class. Meanwhile dividing the right is not a priority because fascism is not a threat to capitalism.

In any political movement there is infighting. But unfortunately Conservatives and Fascists agree on way more than they disagree on and so can collaborate much easier.

Meanwhile on the left and supposed left, Communists, Anarchists, and Social Democrats, have fundamental disputes about tactics, and objectives making collaboration almost impossible.

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[–] nugnuts@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 20 hours ago

Because our ideology is coherent, consistent, and defensible