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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Well, yeah, if a surgeon decided that using a chainsaw in surgery was a good idea and the hospital went ahead with it, it's not up to the chainsaw maker to pay compensation after a patient was eviscerated on the operating table.

AI is stupidly dangerous for any life critical task that requires precision and correctness.

[–] pleksi@sopuli.xyz 7 points 7 hours ago

Ai gave the wrong answer and the patient dies - your fault.

You didnt trust ai, the patient dies - also your fault.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 19 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Good. But I would like to see it go further and have a provision that allows the doctor to pass that blame on to the place they work if using that AI is being forced on them.

[–] JayDee 1 points 37 minutes ago

Additionally, if an AI is advertised as 'safe for medical guidance', that should open that AI company to lawsuits.

[–] nbsp@programming.dev 55 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (5 children)

Not really. Workers are left taking the blame for forced implementation from the executive level. They save the costs and work staff harder... But when it fucks up then the workers can take the blame. Responsibility for this needs to sit higher up with those who forced faulty tools on everyone. AI is being forced into the NHS against all protests and objections.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 hours ago

Any doctor using an LLM or ML algorithm for anything but analysing huge quantities of data deserves to be lambasted

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Does the "following orders" defense work sometimes?

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)
[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Especially if you have archived that email saying ftfu and AI. I've been hoarding these since this idiocy started.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Only when standards are not at their highest? If so, that wouldn't look good.

[–] KingKong33@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Then they have an obligation to fight back. Or they can lose their job because they blindly followed AI.

[–] Stopwatch1986@lemmy.ml 1 points 33 minutes ago

And resistance can only be collective. Another reason unionisation is as important as it's even been.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 9 hours ago

Workers are left taking the blame for forced implementation from the executive level.

Are the individual workers being sued, or is the hospital?

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I can understand this to some degree, but I largely disagree.

AI is a tool. The user of the tool should be the one that carries responsibility. I don't have the stats, but I imagine that most jobs that relied on hand tools suffered more injury when power tools were introduced, but again, it's up to the person using the tool to use it responsibly.

Granted, thats not a perfect analogy because AI definitely doesn't present the same marked improvements as power tools, but the responsibility of the user doesn't change.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The power tools are faulty, and they're being forced to use them. You're assuming the people using the AI have the power to reject what the AI says. I'm not sure that's true.

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Now that they're personally liable for what it outputs, they definitely can. Your boss can't force you to break the law.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Well, if you want to lose your job, you're right!

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 7 hours ago

Being liable for medical malpractice and breaking the law are almost completely mutually exclusive.

It's almost always a civil suit, often between insurance companies.

[–] DrakeAlbrecht@lemmy.world 39 points 12 hours ago

Everyone wants to use AI to think for them. Nobody wants to be responsible for the results.

If a doctor relies on AI without verifying or understanding the answer, he deserves all the consequences that will fall on his head.

[–] Flying_Lynx@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

Because it's an undergraduate student at best.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago

As they should!