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[–] Amro@piefed.social 22 points 7 hours ago

This is a hell of way to discover I'm a straight man. During Pride month no less 🤦‍♀️

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

I bet there's so many guys that are saying, "See honey, I told you! " right now

[–] remon@ani.social 147 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

My guess would be that almost any category of porn is mostly watched by straight men.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Hardcore man on man on man on man on guy on man. Believe it or not 90% of viewers are straight men.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 hours ago

If the article is about straight dudes, what the hell is that twink doing in the picture?

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 68 points 12 hours ago (12 children)

"Transsexual" is a pretty dated term and this article is from 2012.

Might want to find something more recent and without that language to post instead.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

Hijacking top comment to also add that there are words for men who are attracted to femininity outside of the bounds of cisgender women: gynesexual (older term, less inclusive due to implication of a vagina) and finsexual (newer term, more inclusive and drops implication of a vagina).

It is quite likely that many of those men actually fall into these categories even if they have not accepted that about themselves as of yet. Others are bisexual, and even others are pansexual, and haven't "come out" as it were.

Especially if this is relying on self-reporting and how often men want to appear straight, the number of men who are wrestling with such feelings but still put down "straight" is probably quite high.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

even if they have not accepted that about themselves

They also may not even know. The whole thing is a political minefield and trying to join in any conversation without knowing all the words tends to trigger a massive overreaction from allies and bigots alike.

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[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Hijacking your thread to ask a linguistics question: what is the source and meaning of the fin prefix here?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Coined in July of 2014 on tumblr:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150324190159/pride-flags-for-us.tumblr.com/tagged/androsexual

The "fin" prefix means "feminine in nature" and so the opposite where you're attracted to people "masculine in nature" is minsexual. This confuses a lot of people because normally a prefix isn't also an acronym, it's usually from a root word.

So, I think it's a good replacement for gynesexual/androsexual, despite the slightly confusing nature of its origin.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Thank you! Not gonna lie, that was underwhelming. Also, I really hope the double f and double m variants don't stick, because that is a hot mess. While the new terms clarify language and improve communication, the doubles just make communication hard and imprecise.

Yeah I agree on that, the doubles make it way more confusing, and its confusing enough to people since the prefix is an acronym while people are scanning dictionaries trying to figure out a root word that doesn't exist.

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 hours ago

Thank you! I actually learned about those two terms recently, I appreciate you putting those out here!

My husband is finsexual and it's nice to have a more accurate word for it :)

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

I thought "trans" was short for transsexual? Could someone bring me up to speed here?

In what way is it outdated?

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 22 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

It used to be transsexual, but now it's transgender owing to the differences between sex and gender.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What I'm reading when looking it up is that "trans" is an umbrella term for both.

Are there any good references for this?

Also seems to be that you could be transsexual without being transgender. What if you identify as internal male but feel like your body should be female? Is that not possible? Maybe I'm overthinking it.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

What if you identify as internal male but feel like your body should be female? Is that not possible? Maybe I'm overthinking it.

I think that's probably possible but I don't think transgender or transsexual would be the way to describe that? I don't know, I like language and think I'm up to date on terms but I'm probably not compared to those inside those spaces. But then again with threadiverse as my main social media I might as well be lol.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And before that wasn't it "transvestite"?

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Eh, sort of. Transvestite refers to someone who wears clothes of the opposite gender (trans = across, vestir = to clothe, to wear), and really that mainly applied to men wearing women's clothes, because a woman wearing pants is questionable, but a man wearing a dress? There's clearly something wrong with them!

As clothing "norms" became more old fashioned, that word fell into disuse.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Thank you. That made me remember this video by Matt Baume and after rewatchijg I should have known that.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

trans is short for "transgender."

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It is correct, but the former has become a slur over time, nor does "transexual" match because it's not about who you desire, it's about who you are. Heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, finsexual are all about what kind person(s) you desire sexually. It's a mismatch and it is now a slur.

So it means transgender. Unless you're an asshole.

[–] homes@piefed.world 13 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I often wonder about the contemporaneous use of that word, and I think it’s mostly geared toward a particular audience by writers who mostly don’t know better. Perhaps because they or their editors are afraid to use the word “transgender“ due to the politically charged nature surrounding it at the moment, and believe (falsely) that using the word “transsexual” yes, somehow, less offensive.

I really wish they wouldn’t.

However, considering that this article is 14 years old, the use of this term is most likely a product of ignorance. And, as usual, I’m probably overthinking things.

[–] YoureHotCupCake@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

No its not dated, generally transgender is used instead but many trans folks still use transsexual especially those that have undergone bottom surgery.

[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 hours ago

Let me clarify - I think it's being used in an outdated way in this article.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't a "transsexual" be someone who has a strong sexual preference for transgender people?

[–] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 hours ago

That's not what the historic definition of the word is, but I don't know if people are trying to reclaim it and redefine it so I can't speak on that.

I do know that it is seen as offensive generally.

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[–] cholesterol@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Real muscular ones too!

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (5 children)

Well duh, trans people are a very small minority. I think we could go further and come close to saying all porn across the board is mostly consumed by straight identifying men... With perhap the exception of gay porn, but even there who knows (hence saying straight identifying men).

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[–] endless_nameless@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago
[–] homes@piefed.world 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This article is from 14 years ago, and our understanding of the landscape of human sexuality and gender identity has advanced considerably since then.

Also, the use of the word “transsexual” is more than a bit problematic in this context.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If anything this is less surprising now than it would have been then, but in 2012 it was already becoming readily apparent to people outside the LGBT and academic communities that sexuality doesn't match a stereotypical categorisation that puts everyone into "straight, only wants to see the bits of the opposite sex", "gay, only wants to see the bits of the same sex" or "bi, anything goes" boxes. Certainly if you spent much time online back then, it was talked about frequently.

Now it should be pretty much obvious: does anyone other than conservatives think that sexuality works like that? Do any of us think that "straight" is something more than an identity, a social construct like gender and race? Given that, can anyone be surprised that there are people who identify as straight but don't quite match someone else's strict drawing of the boundaries of that identity?

Maybe some LGBT allies want to say, "honey, if you like watching porn with two dicks in it, maybe you're a lil bit gay", but how comfortable would you be with telling someone who identifies as gay that actually they don't know their own sexual identity? Hopefully you would be pretty uncomfortable with that. Of course there are limits and sometimes people can be in denial or in the closet, but you need extreme caution when drawing such a conclusion otherwise you're going to erase someone or something. Erasure isn't OK just because you think you're erasing straightness. Erasure is only OK in one scenario.

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