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He lost ... Again , that is GREAT
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accomplished nothing
Now there is an understatement.
- It has cost the US billions on the war
- It will billions to pay for damage caused.
- The US army showed it's incompetence and proved not even be half of what the world thought they where
- ~~Trump lost face, credibility showed he can't make any deal and became the laughing stock~~ that was accomplished long ago
But, to be fair,
- The trump "family" made themselves a lot richer by donald influencing the stock marked
- Nathanyahu did not release whatever he's got on potus for he obeyed and started the war israel wanted
The US army showed it’s incompetence and proved not even be half of what the world thought they where
To be fair, the military told Trump this would happen, To defeat Iran would require a ground invasion and way more resources than the public would stand for, but he didn't listen to them and started a war anyway.
That's why every president for the last 50 years did not start a war with Iran, not even Bush, who really really wanted to. They actually listened to people who were smarter than them.
But Trump is always the smartest person in the room. I mean if he wasn't so super duper smart then why is he so rich? Obviously he knows more about Iran than anybody. Trump didn't give a shit because he's rich, and he treats being president the same way a rich person treats their employees - give me what I want or you're fired. So the military does what Trump wants, shit goes south and now Trump is blaming everyone but himself for his own mistake.
Why? Becuase he's a god damned moron.
Good job Trump.
To the last point, I don’t think he has anything on Trump to make him start the war. Trump is a dumb malignant Narcissist with age related cognitive decline. It’s really easy to manipulate him with flattery and bribes. I think it’s far more likely Bebe played to his ego about strength and promised some way to cut the Trump organization in on a scam to make money off the situation. That’s why when Bebe pressed him too hard last time he cut him out in the cold and is making this deal with Iran alone. Trump sees the political consequence, and Trump is Trump first at all times. He demands loyalty, but returns it only when convenient.
Fair enough. It's either or both. But he got played. (And now only wants out, which not a good negotiation position. So he pays billions to get out. And what does he care? It's not like it's his money or he pays taxes)
"Nothing" would be a win for the USA... this deal includes less sanctions to Iran, $300 BILLION of US taxpayers to rebuild what was broken, a more determined Iran leadership... and some lives but nobody seem to care about those
I can think of another failing modern empire that returned to fascism and is being embarrassed in a senselessly brutal and poorly conceived “limited action” against a smaller militarily disadvantaged nation…
The things that make nations great is not war and reinvestment in their elite classes, it is the investments of grand infrastructure that underpins the spirit of their people, and that gave rise to an elite class in the first place: water, food, housing, healthcare, science, and education. Republican policies (and they are now explicitly party policy) of exclusion, hate, war, deregulation, and authoritarian force aim to dismantle and rebuild the US in the image of Christian fascism. It continues to remain hilariously contradictory to me as to how they ever planned to do this by utilizing a government they are actively dismantling, with a clearly incompetent leader who can only see strategies that funnel money and power to his interests.
Just like economic bubbles, the overvalued faith in these utterly insane people is only propped up by the false hype generated by media spin and massive loans against the excess power projection of the US constructed over a century. The losses have been socialized for too long and the bubble will burst, as it was designed to do. This system has been carefully engineered over decades by people who have had so much wealth for so long that it has completely disconnected them from reality and decoupled their thinking from consequence for generations. In other words, they have gone mad with power.
I can also recall several other historically fascist nations that were driven to ruin by their elite classes succumbing to this madness, right around the 1930’s…
As cathartic as it is to shit on him, I could also see the benefit of massive positive gaslighting in this instance.
"Yeah, you won! I didn't think you could pull it off, but you scored one of the biggest wins in American history! Job well done!"
He's a fucking lunatic and a coward that physically cannot admit wrongdoing, so let him take his obscenely fake W in the poll of public opinion and walk away from Iran, stop the slaughter, and let the adults stabilize the situation.
You could call it enabling, sure, but I think he's more dangerous when his ego is assaulted and challenged.
I mean, he’ll take care of that. He doesn't need help lying.
Great! Deal with Iran, peace in the Middle East, woohoo... now back to investigating and releasing more of the Epstein Files?
That pretty much sums up chomo Caligula’s entire life