It truly was quixotic.
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Nah, just shifting gears. The old fight was to stop it, the new fight will be to own it.
Something…something…pil prices
That's this universe we live in, the powers that be actively fighting progress, yet progress still is made. I'm grateful to those who progress technology and apply it to benefit humanity. The Drump administration just keeps losing.
They're not really fighting progress, they're fighting whatever they don't own that's competing with what they do own. Whether that's progress or convention doesn't matter to them. At some point if the other thing wins they switch tactics and start buying it.
As long as the progress is profitable.
Well that’s good news, at least.
And honestly, that was such a stupid fucking hill for him to want to die on - and he wants to die on a whole fucking lot of stupid hills.
If only he would have a heart attack on one of them
And then Orange will claim they support wind energy when the energy cost drop.
By then they technically will support wind energy because they'll have bought a big share of it. That's what this is always about - support what you own, fight what you don't own. If the other thing wins, buy the other thing.
The fuckin pedophile will claim to have helped invent wind energy and his entire base will cheer on in triumph. He'd go go on further to exclaim that democrats were secretly trying to pressure him into stopping it, that's why the push back at first but he prevailed and now the Earth is saved from evil Obama who tried to destroy it.
What are you trying to accomplish with this comment
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My question is, why does it matter who in government supports what?
Let the people decide what to use or not themselves.
Personally, I love solar. If I could afford to buy a bunch of panels and batteries, I'd be generating my own electricity, and happily tell my power company to suck my dick.
Decentralization should not be so controversial!
The government paid like $1B for wind farm developers to abandon projects.
Most of the time government slows things down, but the current administration actively fights against progress or shatter people want. wtf does he care about wind farms in New England enough to shut them down
I mean the alternatives are not all wine and roses. We pay among the highest electricity prices in the country and a big part of that is depending on wind farms that are already like a decade behind. Previous governments slowed them down, letting everyone be heard, but they didn’t actively oppose
Oh, I agree with you on that. We should not be picking winners and losers based on politics. That way leads to ruin.
When the right complains about wind farm and solar subsidies, I agree with them. They need to prosper or not on their own, not with tax money.
When the left complains about oil and gas exploration subsidies, I agree with them, too. For the same reason as above.
I get why people want to nationalize all these industries, and it's because those industries were created in large part by using our money.
I also know that when a government constantly shields its citizens, including their businesses, from their own mistakes, it tends to create an attitude of dismissal towards improvement.
My question is, why does it matter who in government supports what?
Because they were actively holding back required approvals for the wind farms to begin operations.
Because if you dont have some kind of regulation it ends up being about market forces, which has even less to do with the will of the people and more to do with what makes a very few people rich.
The main issue with government intervention isnt that "government bad", it's that those same few rich people have more influence on it than the will of the people. In a large part because those people would rather cede that power to them rather than make any kind of rational decision.
Its good that green energy is benefiting from market forces right now... but it's a fair weather friend, and as soon as something else is more likely to make some rich asshole more money, it will be tossed back in the junk heap to rot.
Without the people buying things, those rich don't exist. All regulations really do is line the pockets of the already existing companies and make it harder for the small guy working out of his garage.
People have forgotten that the wallet is the most powerful way to vote. Don't buy their product and they won't make any money.
All regulations really do is line the pockets of the already existing companies and make it harder for the small guy working out of his garage.
And protect the environment from wanton pollution and destruction, and provide workers with guarantees against their employer, and keep needlessly dangerous products from hurting customers, and...
And without those rich people making them, they have nothing to buy. They dont just magically appear for people to buy. That is a misconception (or misdirection, rather) with how consumer action works. You cant take action if the rich dont let you in those situations.
The wallet is only as powerful as the people who run your economy, and generally less so.
The economy doesn't need to be "run" is my entire point.
Personally, I find regulations to be a bandaid over a legitimate problem: shareholder misalignment. Really, companies should only ever be consumer and worker coöps since those are the direct stakeholders and the reason businesses exist in the first place. Shareholders aren't needed and only serve as a form of parasitic wealth extraction that feeds capital accural, cartel formation, and monopolization.
But you’re missing externalities. A huge reason we need better regulation is the tendency of corporations to externalize their costs to all of our detriment.
Climate and pollutions issues are a prime example. In a free market A corporations saves money by evading cleanup costs, polluting, and the rest of us pay. A justly regulated market minimizes those externalities so the corporations covers all its costs
Even a perfect utopian co-op needs regulations beacuse most people don't know anything about environmental impact or proper safety precautions.
Any work I do on my house I do to code (and I do look it up when starting a new project). The previous owner... not so much - I found newspaper wrapped around electrical junction boxes, because wires never get hot enough to light old, super dry newspaper on fire....
Nor is decentralization controversial. And there can be a conversation about making sure it is not actively discouraged.
But economies of scale are real. Does that mean a single power plant for the entire US, continent, world is a good idea? Of course not. Nor is 8.3 billion* individual installations.
* current world population
No amount of weak old man outrage can put that genie back in the bottle.