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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The Republican base is angry, too. Everybody's angry.

Our parties are not concerned, they are making a FORTUNE. Openly, they don't even bother to hide it any longer.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

It would be an astounding change in policy if they were.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

The base isn't the same as the mogul constituents that the Democratic leadership cares about.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago

To be clear, for those reading, the DSA is structured as a party and could act as an independent party if necessary, but they mainly run candidates in democratic primaries as they recognize that doing so is a more practical way to win elections in the short term.

[–] Floon@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not that I can tell. Establishment Dems do nothing but disappoint. How bad at your job do you have to be to lose to Trump?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does that "base" bribe the politicians? No? So why should they care?

[–] megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean. They do pay them in the form of taxes. And also in the form of small donor donations to campaigns.

In some campaigns the large donations from rich donors are more significant than the total from small dominoes, but that’s not always the case.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

While that is the case, this is just a kind of "basic income", and just expected to be there. Contracts, nice trips, some extra cash, dinner invitations, etc, that are the nice and memorable cherries on top. And there is way more cherries here than ice cream and cream together.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Sounds like an attitude problem in the electorate. Do they want republicans to win? It is selfish to think that politicians should earn your vote. I mean, that's some elementary school level conception of democracy. Grow up already.

[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No is the simple answer. But voting and elections are not going to fix the problems the usa has created for itself. Its not just drumpf.

[–] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

Dems don’t want to sell that reality. They want to whip up their base to vote harder so that they can squander another supermajority on something dumb, like giving Israel more arms to genocide. Then Israel re-initiates the Iran war so that the can Dems can be in charge of losing.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

No.

George W. Bush stood alongside Obama at the opening of the latter's Presidential library instead of swinging from the gallows back in '08, which is what needed to happen if we were to save America.

Instead, we're fucked. The Dems ain't listening.

[–] themaninblack@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Absolutely correct. And I was the only one among my friends writing to, emailing, and calling politicians to try to get them to do it.

Then we need to force them to listen to us, by any means necessary

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 18 points 2 days ago

Oh I can answer that for you. The answer is no.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Democratic Party is a honey trap to capture and neutralize progressive policies and politicians, and to make sure the “Overton Window” of American politics never moves left. The leadership runs cover for Republicans because they have the same donors and the same agenda. How many times do they need to invent some mechanism to allow them to steal defeat out of the jaws of victory for it to form a clear composite picture of collaboration?

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe, but you’ll notice how the Republicans were able to take over their party and turn it into exactly what they wanted; a loony tunes racist circus. Don’t see why Democrats can’t do the same.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because it’s a “good cop bad cop” routine

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Get enough platners and AOCs through primaries and the squad becomes a battalion. The Overton window will move if the people vote for it often enough.

Just like how gay marriage tipped over 50% popularity and suddenly is became constitutional.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

From your lips to the Flying Spaghetti Monster’s ears

[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

While I do think we know there's some truth to all that, it's clear voting matters otherwise the Republican party wouldn't be trying to rig it every fucking chance they get, and the DNC wouldn't have been going so apeshit over Bernie in 2016. He threatened the establishment and they had to attack their own constituents and call them Bernie bros to get things back "on track".

It's not so black and white. There's Democrat politicians who range from zero to one as controlled opposition, and as supporters of the establishment and the status quo. People are more complex than that. They have their own goals and some of them did not join politics just to make a buck, and some of them are just plain cowards or are too far separated from their constituents to realize what they want because they're just surrounded by rich powerful fucks who don't buy groceries.

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[–] schnapsman@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

Betteridge's law of headlines strikes again

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 14 points 2 days ago (19 children)
[–] FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Then we will force them to pay attention

we need to force them to listen to us, by any means necessary

[–] LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but will we this time?

We have to, we have to force them to pay attention or else

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

angry doesnt quite cover it.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Livid with rage" would be the more accurate description.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

“Burnt out from rage” is closer to me but yeah

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The people how vote in primaries chooses the direction of the party.

Look at the republicans they saw what the base wanted now they’re all loyal to MAGA.

[–] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Except everyone doesnt have the opportunity to vote in primaries because this backwards ass country makes voting in general overly complicated/inconvenient on purpose.

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