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Meat has a bad reputation. Most people think of meat, especially red meat, as dangerously unhealthy. However, meat has unique properties that make it more nutritious, easier to digest, and less likely to irritate your body than vegetables. Does the science behind meat-phobia hold up under the microscope?

TLDR - Yes, meat is healthy - eat it.

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[–] silly_goose@lemmy.today 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

This post has gotten a lot of interesting discussion. The real world is so messy though.

Most of us don't have the willpower or desire to eat like the carnivores on the sub. They eat meat as fried chicken, cheese burgers, or pizza toppings with coke and alcohol etc.

So maybe we can say it's not a superfood for everybody.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

Most of us don't have the willpower or desire to eat like the carnivores on the sub. They eat meat as fried chicken, cheese burgers, or pizza toppings with coke and alcohol etc.

I know you know better. Zero carb carnivore is not fried chicken, that has seed oil. It is not pizza, that has carbs. It is not a cheeseburger, that has buns. Sure, as hell is not Coke and alcohol. You have been stalking our community for long enough that you know zero carb carnivore is none of those things. To represent it as those things is disingenuous and quite frankly offensive. You know better

maybe we can say it's not a superfood for everybody

The meat is the superfood, every bad thing in your example was from the plants.

[–] silly_goose@lemmy.today 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

You have been stalking our community for long enough

Nowadays, it's been one of my favorite ways to pass time 😆. These kinds of discussions are rare in other communities and they draw me in. I also used to watch modern day debate on YT a lot.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Have you found any good debates between doctors? I found a few but they were just talking past each other. A good faith debate would be interesting

The closest I found was a neurosurgeon debating a naturopath but the naturopath didn't share their references before the debate, so it was kinda a waste of everyones time because they asserted things from their references and wouldn't budge so half the "debate" was the neurosurgeon saying "I haven't read that reference"

[–] silly_goose@lemmy.today 3 points 15 hours ago

The same one you posted in the community? Yea I didn't find any debates like that. It seems most of the diet people prefer making response videos.

The ones I used to watch were mostly on religion, philosophy, and politics.

[–] silly_goose@lemmy.today 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Zero carb carnivore is not fried chicken, that has seed oil.

yes. I'm not criticizing the ZC carnivore lifestyle. I'm questioning whether it can work out in a world full of hedonistic people. For example there are so many who know smoking or doing drugs is bad and still do it.

The meat is the superfood, every bad thing in your example was from the plants.

yea the way you eat it is probably healthy.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I think it can work with hedonistic people, we have to make people aware they are being hedonistic, and they are carbohydrate addicts. It's just like alcohol addiction. They have to be supported, but they have to be aware they have a problem. Carbohydrates are so pervasive that most people don't even realize they're a bad thing, working against their health goals

So yes, smokers, drugs, people know they're bad, you just need to bring the general level of nutritional knowledge up to that level. So people know that it's the plants that are causing their long-term problems, not the meat.

[–] silly_goose@lemmy.today 3 points 19 hours ago

Yeah for sure. Awareness and having support systems can work. 🤞

[–] xep@discuss.online 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I think silly_goose is saying the average person doesn't think eating zero carb like we recommend is normal, or even possible. That is consistent with my experience also.

But meat really is good for everyone :)

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, I can see that now.

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