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What VPN have you switched to after the Mullvad situation. I have looked at nym and ivpn. But don't know if they are any good.

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[–] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I switched away from Mullvad when they killed port forwarding years ago. I have used AirVPN since and it has always been pretty good!

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[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 19 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

i use proton.. airvpn looks good but i still haven't tried it

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[–] OccasionallyFeralya@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago

AirVPN does good for torrenting I use it now that mulvad doesnt support port forwarding

[–] inanimate_carbon_rod@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've been pretty happy with Windscribe. They are headquartered in Canada, but they have also proven they don't keep logs. https://cybersecuritynews.com/court-dismisses-criminal-charges-against-vpn-executive-affirms-no-log-policy/

If you're looking for a good comparison, I found the Techlore comparison table helpful: https://vpn.techlore.tech/

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

They also threatened to leave Canada if Bill C-22 passes, which I take as a good sign that they're serious.

[–] purplish2323@piefed.social 15 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I am also considering either IVPN or Nym. Not sure which is best for best privacy/security. Probably IVPN? Can anyone more knowledgeable help me decide between these two?

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[–] Gerald@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 weeks ago

Airvpn... few servers, but reliable on different machines and no problems.

[–] voxel@feddit.org 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wouldn't recommend NYM, I tested it for multiple months, it's quite unreliable and had serious security issues (e.g. updates weren't available through multiple repositories they publish to).

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[–] furzegulo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago

yeah i'm switching to ivpn

[–] RhondaSandTits 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I have 5 days left, looks like I'm not gonna renew.
I find the support of that political party pretty disturbing.

I think I am just going to use tor for general browsing. Mullvad IP addresses get blocked just as much as tor these days anyway.

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[–] Tangentism@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I use AirVpn as they allow port forwarding and are reasonably priced. They are no logs and allow payment through non-bank methods

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[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Someone mentioned https://cryptostorm.is/ on another board, but I never heard of them before.

Any experiences here? I know a lot of VPNs like Express VPN or PIA are controlled by Israel/Mossad - so I won't recommend tbem without a lot of research.

[–] oblivion96@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 weeks ago

I'm using Cryptostorm for around two years now for seeding and browsing. Some things to know.

  • We don't know who is behind Cryptostorm. It could be a honeypot. I personally think this is unlikely because they basically don't advertise and their website is way too uninviting for the "casual" criminal user, but who knows.
  • PGP-encrypted mail support works well and is (likely) handled by a dev with competence. (Very sure there is no specific "support" person.)
  • Server and client code is open source on their GitHub, but they only have an OpenVPN client for Windows. For other systems you need to use the provided WireGuard or OpenVPN configs.
  • No PII is required for signup.
  • Their blog posts are very good and go into detail about their system and what they are doing.
  • IP blocks are somewhat common, and you don't have streaming servers.
  • Speeds are fine (not the best, but good enough) and can vary from server to server.

Generally, I'm quite happy with them. But everyone needs to make sure they are fine with not knowing who exactly is behind the service.

[–] wisdomsuccubus@thelemmy.club 6 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I use Proton VPN, but also exist self-hosted VPNs which is better

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[–] simpolomeo@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 weeks ago

ivpn seems like a good enough replacement privacy-wise

[–] taco@anarchist.nexus 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I never got around to changing from PIA when they were purchased years ago. Haven't found any practical reason to change since, and though I get the backlash over the purchase.

My main use case is keeping my ISP from cutting me off for seeding, and it's done that reliably.

[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 19 points 3 weeks ago

https://www.middleeasteye.net/trending/outcry-erupts-over-expressvpn-ownership-what-israeli-connection-means-user-privacy

PIA is part of that group of VPNs all owned by a dubios Israeli entity that keeps gobbling up VPN providers

[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Just remember that PIA's owner is kape technologies, which is a British-Israeli company. Their headquarters are in London but development is done in Tel Aviv.

It sounds like you might already be aware but for anybody stumbling by.

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[–] chrand@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

I'm a happy IVPN user. Small team, privacy enthusiasts, transparent, great products. Just a heads up, some IVPN subscription tiers offer MailX (email aliases, like SimpleLogin), ModDNS (like Contro-D or NextDNS) and Portmaster (app firewall, and SPN network, inspired on TOR). It's hard to compete!

[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

Personally I'm not using any of them that haven't been raided and proven not to keep records and as far as I know Mullvad is the only one who fits that bill.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

It really depends on whether you care or not about State Surveillance.

If you don't and only really care about general privacy and things like not getting letters from lawyers demanding money because you torrented something, then any no-logs VPN will do:

  • For starters just having a VPN means it's not just a case of a lawyer claiming to represent a copyright owner demanding from a local ISP the identification of the user of a specific IP at a specific time (which many countries have made laws to facilitate, so they don't even need a court order) so now they probably need a court order
  • Then if the VPN is in a different legal jurisdiction said court order needs to be from a court there, not where you are. Even if said lawyer are there and get that court order, they still need the ISP in a different country to give them the information of the user whose IP is in the VPN logs, so that's a lot more complex.
  • Then if the VPN has no-logs, they can't even get the user IP address because it's nowhere to be found. They would need a court order to install what's basically wiretapping equipment or software in that VPN in order to catch a user whilst they're actually using that connection to torrent some file or other. No court is going to be issuing a wiretapping order for a VPN provider to catch a non-commercial case of copyright violation.

If, however, you care about State Surveillance, then merely a no-logs VPN isn't necessarily safe anymore. You see several countries, such as the US and UK, have special surveillance courts (such as FISA courts in the US) which can issue court orders to facilitate data access for mass surveillance WHICH THE RECIPIENTS CANNOT PUBLICLY ADMIT THEY'RE UNDER. In other words, the wiretapping equipment/software to allow bulk tracking of what users are doing might already be installed at the no-logs VPN (and they cannot tell you about it otherwise they'll literally end up in jail) so it's not in fact no-logs because the likes of the NSA is actually logging it all. Any VPN hosted in such legal jurisdictions can be the target of it, any company registered in such legal jurisdictions can be the target of it and it doesn't matter how honest and pro-privacy the people in those companies are - I vaguely remember the case of a secure e-mail provider in the US (forgot the name now), who tried to fight one such court order and ultimately the only way they found to do so was to close down the service and their company.

So if you VPN company is for example registered in Gibraltar (which is a British jurisdiction) or the US and they're still operating, they're very likely compromised and even if they're not, they can silently be compromise at any time.

If you care about avoiding mass surveillance from actual governments, then beyond the usual autocratic nations you'll want to avoid VPN exit points in and VPN providers based in or registered in at the very least the US, UK and Israel and any of the regions under their jurisdiction (for example Gibraltar and the Channel Islands for Britain, Puerto Rico for the US), probably more broadly all the 5-Eyes nations (so, the first 2 plus Canada, Australia and New Zealand).

So check were that "wonderful no-logs VPN" company is registered and were is based and avoid those in countries with insane civil society surveillance legislation like the Patriot Act and even avoid exit nodes of other VPN companies in such countries.

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[–] DoomSayer@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

Had a bad experience with Nym. It's not compatible with GrapheneOS. It runs, but there's a data limit that in my experience kept getting artificially hit by the forming and breaking of connections that occurs when switching GOS profiles. Maybe this happens less on stock Android?

Regardless, I had to keep contacting their support for extensions. In 6 years, I haven't yet had to contact Mullvad support. It just works!

I experienced DNS leaks when Nym claimed it was 'fully' connected. Mullvad.net could 'see' where I was located. That's not considering that in general the connection with Nym was much slower than Mullvad. Nym offered me an extended free trial, but I haven't claimed it yet. Reckon they'll need another couple of years to iron out the obvious issues.

In summary, Nym felt like a very early prototype much more than a production-ready service.

[–] starsoaked_lily@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

ivpn is the only one on the list privacy-guides recommends other than mullvad and proton - obviously their recommendations aren't law but a good starting point for looking into things yourself

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