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The centrists annoyed by the left aren’t stupid. They are conflating the socialist left with the MAGA right as a rhetorical tool. The media, traditional Democrats, and swing voters will reject Mamdani and his ilk if they are convinced that socialists will be as destructive to the U.S. as Trumpists. But this misleading centrist rhetoric has real consequences. What the U.S. desperately needs is socialists, traditional liberals, independents, and pro-democracy conservatives to disagree with one another during Democratic primaries but then join together to defeat the MAGA right in general elections. That unity can’t happen if anytime centrist Democrats lose a primary they act as if a socialist candidate winning is as dangerous as a MAGA candidate winning. It’s not. I plead to those on the center left to stop calling people extreme unless they are trying to end democracy in America.

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[–] Capable_Coping@piefed.social 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

they are not "centrists" they are "fascist collaborators"

[–] toomanypancakes@crazypeople.online 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If I see a table with one fascist sitting next to 11 "fascist collaborators", I'm just staring at 12 fascists.

[–] Capable_Coping@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

sure, but I don't really want to deal with the "Saying both sides are the same is literally voting for Hitler people" rn

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

The centrists will never stop saying that. They made careers out of their fake positioning, and they can’t give it up without retiring… We just need to stop listening to them, and always calling out their bullshit.

For example, say something like this… “Trump is the star of the Epstein Files. Who is the leftwing equivalent? There isn’t one.”

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s all politics and money. They feel power and money slipping away. It was never about democracy.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

On top of that. The Democrats are having a hard time maintaining their role as a controlled opposition party. They use to be the pit that any leftist movement fell into. Israel really made it clear what their purpose has always been.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It's like they've learned nothing from the Tea Party wildly shifting the Overton window.

And in this case, what's the worst that would happen? Oh no! We accidentally pulled too far to the left and now we don't have school shootings anymore!