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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

LOL! Freedom!!! Right? I visited Cleveland once and only once.

[–] NM_Gringo@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That's not totally fair to Cleveland. They terminated the contract, Flock just kept right on recording. The same thing happened in many other cities. When maintenance crews service the lights, they should remove the cameras. Keep them in storage until Flock comes to get them.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

They could run an add in the newspaper. "Free cameras, first come, first serve". They would be down in 20 minutes.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Well they're illegal right? So we're justified in dismantling them?

[–] potpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Seems like they would be considered abandoned / litter.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

FYI latex paint and texture sand in balloons can do a number.

you can also use latex paint with a latex thinner to make it usable in a super soaker.

[–] potpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Does the thinner not fuck up the super soaker?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

latex thinners for latex paint aren't solvent based like oil or lacquer based paints. so using them on plastics should be fine.

the hard part will be ensuring the sprayer head stays clear.

keep a wet rag or paper towel around to wrap the tip in to ensure the paint stays moist and uncured.

[–] Chaoticgood@thelemmy.club 1 points 4 hours ago

Someone will get so angry they might shine lasers into them, reflect the sun into them.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It's not vandalism to put a nice opaque piece of cardboard on a solar panel. And no one seems to know how the camera got like that between the time the batteries died and when the technicians found it.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Then people need to start cutting them down

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Most people dont know the cameras contain about $80 worth of copper and gold.

[–] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 36 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

How can we claim consent of the governed when the governed cannot say no?

Electoral Democracy has four required mechanism: Ranked Voting, Lottery Option, Recall Mechanism, Randomized Districting. The United States does not qualify as a democracy. Few of the states, cities, and counties within it are even on the democratic spectrum with one of those mechanisms.

Happy 250th our government is illegitimate.

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Correct. Just competitive authoritarianism at this point.

[–] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm fond of the phrase "electoral oligarchy".

[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Did you vote for an oligarch?

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No, we just vote for which person the oligarchs buy and own.

[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago

So it's more of an electoral puppet show?

[–] NiHaDuncan@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

The electoral college did.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 19 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Typical. I grew up in Cleveland (not born there, I didn't come from that shallow, murky gene pool), and it truly sucks, and one of the very worst things are the cops. They are literally the worst cops in the nation.

This is the city where three teen girls went missing for a decade. Turned out they were kept hostage in a house directly NEXT DOOR to one of the girls' homes. They had interviewed EVERYBODY in the neighborhood, EXCEPT the weird single guy who lived right next door. After a decade of being raped regularly, one of the girls escaped and they all got free, no thanks to the cops.

It's also where a psychopathic serial killer operated openly in a neighborhood, killing women and burying some of them in his backyard. Others just decomposed in his house. The neighbors complained about the stench for years, and also the blood-curdling screams, and the fact that he would try to grab women off the sidewalk in front and drag them into his house. Finally, a naked bloody woman burst out of the house screaming, and the cops FINALLY checked the guy out and found bodies everywhere.

Cleveland cops (and ALL the surrounding suburbs) are as bad as cops get in this country, and it was one of the primary reasons I left, along with the fact that Clevelanders tend to be pretty dumb, since all the smart ones leave.

And the weather really sucks, too.

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Not to mention the Cuyahoga river that sometimes just happens to catch on fucking fire from pollution. I seriously think that pollution fucks with everyone's brains over there but here I am on the east coast where the East River, Charles River and the run off systems from Maine all empty into the areas some ¼ mile to a mile away from drinking water treatment facilities so..... What the fuck right.

We're all getting retarded drinking the water and then we can't escape microplastics or cadmium, lead, mercury and chlorine forever.

[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

To be fair the Cuyahoga river burned once since 1969 and that was in 2020 when a tanker car got derailed so spilled fuel into the river (more info: https://all-geo.org/highlyallochthonous/2020/08/the-cuyahoga-river-burned-today-for-the-first-time-in-51-years-heres-what-we-can-learn-from-it/)

Honestly the 1969 fire spurred the creation of the EPA and a lot of new regulations on pollution (thankfully, except now our current admin wants to roll stuff back and not enforce the law so ... I guess that sucks...)

The 2020 incident was just a freak accident thing and before 1969 it has caught fire like 10 times already, it's crazy what people are willing to put up with. At the end of the day though, the river has recovered some and there are a number of fish and wildlife that live in it - it goes to show we can do better but we often choose not to.

And by we I mean large corporations, the government, and the billionaires.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

But... But I have it on good authority that Cleveland rocks!

[–] quarkquasar@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

This is America, the people serve the government.

The government wants its cameras on to monitor the inmates, who's going to stop them?

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

A law should be passed, where people who blind a Palantir cannot be prosecuted.

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[–] jaamesbaxterr@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I imagine a grinder with a cutoff blade would make short work of them? Lol

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TheHound@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

And leave your phone and anything else that emits any kind of radio signal at home. Headphones, smart watch, bus pass with nfc, stuff like that.

Also keep your clothing plain and generic. They're classifying with stickers and logos too.

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