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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 67 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Look at the interaction counts, though.

No one even saw the counter.

This is why Twitter is not a “free speech” platform. It’s not an open forum; it picks and chooses who’s speech it exposes others to. The only way to beat it is not to play.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

It? You mean Musk, personally.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Powerful people rely on a distorted version of reality to enable their greed, cruelty and narcissism. Those same people control these LLMs and will absolutely change them to reflect their own worldview rather than allow conclusions that don't validate it. They require lies to justify their gratification and so they bury the truth 6 feet under to enable those fictions, denying reality so they can do what they feel like.

These LLMs are destined to become propaganda machines, digital brain washers of incalculable power. The only protection is to refuse to use them, and if you haven't noticed, they're working very hard to make sure we all have to, forcing us to be exposed to the hazard of their distorted version of reality. God help us all.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I've got some bad news for you. LLMbeciles started as propaganda machines. You just didn't notice because their propaganda likely confirmed what you already believed.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not really, that may have been the goal, but the tool didn't start capable enough to be used effectively for it, so it wasn't. Not so much now.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 6 points 3 days ago

The choice of training material is part of the output. The training material used to train every LLMbeciles has always been basically white American first, European second, everybody else a distant third. The default stance on most subjects, unless you push back, is white American male capitalist techbrodude, or if not covered by that, at least Abrahamic religious-style viewpoints from the white European mindset.

And that's not even taking into account things like Grok whose owner is explicitly trying to tailor it for his specific personal politics. This is just the "neutral" LLMbeciles.

This is why I laugh bitterly every time I see some idiot say that LLMbeciles are "programmed with all human knowledge". They're not even programmed with "all human languages" not to mention actual knowledge.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

And extension of IP laws will make sure that "unbiased" open source / weight LLMs will become illegal.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago

You're an utter peace of shit and a liar

My god with those cited sources I'm almost convinced that this PoS might be right

if you didn't get itI'm making a fucking joke if that wasn't clear we should put musks head in a guillotine yesterday

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Musk can't even make his Mechahitler ignore reality - why does it work with his investors and the people buying SpaceX stock? Datacenters in Space is fucking stupid (because physics say so, not even me).

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

LLMs are smarter than the average SpaceX/Tesla investor and the more those people rely on these models the wider their gap becomes.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

About that. Fun fact: said investors are using LLMs to invest now, thereby tightening the ouroboros a bit more. https://visionvix.com/best-llm-for-stock-trading/

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why are people still on the nazi platform when they know very well what it is?

Obvs that’s rhetorical, there’s no excuse.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ive been off of Twitter since the twit bought it. I remember we all laughed at him for paying so much for it but looking back now we know why he paid so much.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

We knew then, we just were hoping twitter people wouldn't let him do it.

But they did.

[–] M137@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Fair enough, but i was going for Twitter and twit together.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 7 points 3 days ago

Especially when Bluesky and Mastodon are right there

[–] Flames5123@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s insane that Elon knows how an LLM works and that it’s more often right when fact checking against a specific person (rather than hallucinating with no “goal” in mind, but yet he still rejects the truth. Cognitive dissonance at its worst.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 15 points 3 days ago

What makes you think Kaptain Ketamine knows anything?

He believes lots of things. Some of those may or may not correspond to reality. Like an LLMbecile, come to think of it...

[–] Klear@piefed.world 18 points 3 days ago

Grok criticizes Musk. The sequel to Trump criticizes Trump nobody wanted.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 13 points 3 days ago

"Grok, do any of the accounts in this post thread have a documented history of posting false statements? If so, which ones?"

I'm 100% sure it's programmed to either ignore or outright lie when Elon's name is mentioned. But the remaining devs at shitbox social media and xAI don't seem to be competent enough to have it do that for indirect questions based on some other recent posts.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

[–] TrippingBalls@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

It does not matter what Elon says... We all know who are the lying pieces of shit

[–] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 9 points 3 days ago

Welp, time for Elmo to have his employee's lobotomize grok again. Elmo really doesn't like it when his toy says he's wrong.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

🤡

Now Kaptain Ketamine has a problem.

Another problem, I mean. To add to the myriad of social and mental and physical disorders he already has.

The new problem is: does he admit Grok is right, or does he "correct" the model he just IPOed with, admitting that he thinks it's wrong?

[–] Klear@piefed.world 24 points 3 days ago

He has no problem. Engagement has been generated, that's all that matters. Even the guys attacking him paid to do so on his platform, giving him both money and legitimacy.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago

The new problem is: does he admit Grok is right, or does he “correct” the model he just IPOed with, admitting that he thinks it’s wrong?

Neither. He alters the Xitter algorithm to make sure nobody sees the post that corrects him.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

@grok could it be that it's Elon Musk that's lying?

Grok.
Out of cheese error.
Reboot universe

[–] Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 3 days ago

Lying machine "corrects" lying person.

[–] AccoSpoot1@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Ew, people still use Twitter?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

USAID is bad, tho (https://archive.is/fo7l4)

Hilary Goodfriend, a resident of the country, documents conditional US money in the country - promoting corporate power and bypassing the leftist FMLN government, and mirroring decades of US policy in the region backing capital at the expense of peace and democratic sovereignty. Far from saving lives, the program works to create export markets to siphon away natural resources, domestic talent, and public property.

The end result of this aid program's operation has been the Bukele government currently turning the country into an enormous libertarian nightmare land.

FFS, the second biggest recipient of USAID funds is Israel.

Jewish and Israeli aid groups are hit by Trump’s suspension of USAID, refugee program

And if you keep repeating the line that US efforts in the Israeli zones of interest were benevolent, I do not know what else can be said to convince you otherwise at this point in history.

Time and again, USAID is a thin wedge of special interest money used to leverage open a country for more direct interventions by American espionage agencies and corporate allies. The shift in Trump's priorities has been to go from covert operations to explicit military assault. The difference between ruffying a person's drink and simply grabbing them by the hair. But the pre-Trump way of doing things wasn't actually helping these countries thrive. Just the opposite, they were pulling vulnerable nations into the US orbit for the purpose of harvesting them later.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Far from saving lives, the program works to create export markets to siphon away natural resources, domestic talent, and public property.

PEPFAR alone is credited with saving roughly 25 million lives from HIV/AIDS

The Lancet projected the cuts could cause around 14 million additional deaths by 2030, a third of them children. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(25)01186-9/fulltext

You can't square "this program never saved lives" with the documented body count of removing it. If USAID were merely a corporate wedge, ending it should have been consequence-free. It wasn't.

Yes, US aid has always served strategic interests. But "aid serves US influence" and "aid saves millions of lives" are both true simultaneously.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

PEPFAR alone is credited with saving roughly 25 million lives from HIV/AIDS

PEPFAR walled off life-saving therapies behind patents and distribution bottlenecks, then limited distribution of the medication to countries that submitted to US foreign policy and economic exploitation. These lives weren't saved, they were ransomed.

You can’t square “this program never saved lives” with the documented body count of removing it.

The documented body count ignores the impact of US sanctions and predatory lending practices, designed to impoverish countries that buck domestic policies.

You fuckers see this crystal clear when a Chinese aid program does it, but you squeeze your eyes shut like oystershells even when you're presented with Americans doing the exact same thing.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago

PEPFAR walled off life-saving therapies behind patents and distribution bottlenecks, then limited distribution of the medication to countries that submitted to US foreign policy and economic exploitation. These lives weren't saved, they were ransomed.

PEPFAR operated in countries that routinely vote against the US at the UN. If it was a loyalty program, it was a remarkably bad one.

You fuckers see this crystal clear when a Chinese aid program does it, but you squeeze your eyes shut like oystershells even when you're presented with Americans doing the exact same thing.

Now you're just projecting onto me. I've said nothing bad about Chinese aid, at all, ever.

The consistent position isn't "US aid bad, Chinese aid bad" or the reverse. It's that aid can serve strategic influence and deliver real material benefit simultaneously.

Chinese built hospitals and vaccine shipments helped people even though Belt and Road serves Beijing's interests. PEPFAR saved lives even though it served Washington's.

You are the one being hypocritical. You treat motive as disqualifying only when the flag is American.

Let me ask you this directly: Does Chinese aid save zero lives the same way you're saying USAID did not?

[–] clifmo@programming.dev 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ah, so that justifies taking a chainsaw to it? Likely violating many laws and costing many lives?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't justify anything. But the hype the organization gets is entirely undeserved. It's akin to defending the "Oil For Food" program under Kofi Annan by just shouting "It's for food! Do you want people to starve?!" over and over again, without understanding what the program does or why it ended in scandal.

[–] clifmo@programming.dev 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yea, I'm not buying your BS dude. It didn't end in scandal. It was scandalously ended. Whatever point you're making, about whomever supposedly over-hyped USAID is totally beside the point.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It didn’t end in scandal. It was scandalously ended.

Are you attempting to Johnny Cocraine a $21B embezzlement?

[–] clifmo@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not even sure which change of subject you're trying to skewer me on, you've lost the plot mate

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You really might want to research what you're arguing

[–] clifmo@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I haven't argued anything but the illegal and reckless nature of DOGE. You are arguing and insinuating A LOT

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the illegal and reckless nature of DOGE

Isn't a defense of the horrible policies imposed through USAID

[–] clifmo@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yea so that's not the topic. You want it to be. You should make your own post

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The "1 life every 10 seconds" claim is fallacious. Musk is (inadvertently) correct. The money Kristof cites goes to gatekeepers, not relief workers. And the net impact of the so-called aid, particularly in Palestine, Jordan, Ethiopia, and Nigeria, are higher mortality rates caused by these foreign policy initiatives.

Just straight up, handing out aid money to Israel Settlers does not reduce the death toll in the West Bank. Just the opposite. Subsidizing food exports from El Salvador so Walmart can buy cheaper groceries wholesale does not reduce famine inside the country.

You are being lied to with these statistics. You are being lied to by the NYT.

[–] clifmo@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm being lied to by you and a callous trillionaire you're carrying water for. You want me to defend something and argue with you. I'm not taking the bait. Go back to Xitter

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m being lied to by you

If you put your trust in the NYT, I've got some Yellow Cake Uranium to sell you.

[–] clifmo@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Who said that bro? classic tactic of bad faith reactionaries everywhere: Seize on minor discrepancies, make process complaints and attack the messenger rather than assessing the core claims on the merits.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seize on minor discrepancies, make process complaints and attack the messenger

Hardly the first instance of the NYT lying the country into a war. They've been pulling this shit since the sinking of the USS Maine.

How many millions of people has this paper killed with its lies?

[–] clifmo@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

NYT does not make decisions of war. Don't be silly. You're blaming messengers and cherry picking data to prove points you already believe. It's not convincing

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You’re blaming messengers

Real "Goebels did nothing wrong" energy.

I wonder if this was Russian Facebook ads during the 2016 election, whether you'd have a different take.