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The layoffs at one of your studios most able to ship games is a bonkers, stupid decision; but pivoting Obsidian to making a new Fallout game is a good business decision if you don't care about what your creatives feel led to create.

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[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 hours ago

Fingers crossed it actually comes out

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Welp this is going to be disastrous for the fallout series.

[–] lemmelemmy@feddit.org 0 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Wasn’t it already? Apart from new vegas, all fps fallout games are basically mediocre crap with boring non memorable stories.

Who remembers what was the main mission fallout 2 and fallout 3? Who remembers who is yes man and the stupid butler robot from 4?

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

One and two are totally different games. And are amazing.

3 is probably my favorite (but only because it is first person), new Vegas is ok.

4 is where mediocre shows up and 76 is where it just doesn't matter anymore.

The tv show is fun though.

[–] sbbq@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 hours ago

Fallout 2 wasn't first person. Lots of people remember who Yes Man was, as that was from New Vegas which you suggested was good. Do you want to go back and rewrite this?

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

I haven’t played anything before 3.. I enjoyed 3 because it was my intro to the series, it was far from perfect in a good sort of way. 76 has given me a lot of mixed feelings through its life.. fo4 was good for like 1 play through but I can’t bring myself to try it again.. new Vegas was amazing, but obsidian isn’t even the same company or people anymore. Judging by obsidians latest releases, if the new fallout is anything like them, I’m gonna be sad af.

[–] BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Microsoft had Windows 95, Windows XP and Windows 7. Microsoft have a lot of things that they bought then destroyed.. Go Google Microsoft acquisitions Here

Look how many of those companies and software no longer exist.

Now my company is moving to Windows 11, I see all these problems and bugs because Microsoft company-wide actually don't understand the product that they support.

Go to your windows computer, go into the settings, dive deep into the settings.. The older the UI looks the more likely it's going to be actually in control of your computer.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The older the UI looks the more likely it's going to be actually in control of your computer.

It tends to be more functional too

[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 106 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

New Vegas Fans: “We want Obsidian to make Fallout again”

Monkeys paw curls

[–] justdaveisfine@piefed.social 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I feel obligated to point out that this won't be the same Obsidian who made New Vegas. Same company, but (mostly) not the same devs or the same leadership.

Though I'm a little hopeful that Josh Sawyer manages to make something neat.

[–] geekwithsoul@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I mean Josh Sawyer is leading it and Tim Cain and Leonard Boyarsky are both at Obsidian and I imagine they'll be pulled in, as well as a bunch of other folks - so no idea what you're talking about?

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

outer worlds was not that good (imo) avowed was decent. would be insane to just assume theyd catch lightning in a bottle again

[–] Dalkor@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I liked the story of outerworlds but the mechanics and gameplay were never that interesting and it lost me, had to force myself to finish the game and I'm glad I did but oof.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

totally agree, it was so not fun fighting enemies

[–] AMillionMonkeys@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I only watched playthroughs of Outer Worlds and Avowed, and I agree that they were mediocre. But Obsidian's isometric CRPGs Pillars of Eternity I and II and Tyranny were great. If they can assign the isometric writing teams to the first-person games it might work.

[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 1 points 20 hours ago

I'm hoping they just need the right setting, and going back to FO could do that for them.

[–] geekwithsoul@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

I mean you have two of the most important contributors to Fallout 1 & 2, and the project director from New Vegas - if they can't do it, it can't be done.

For what it's worth I really liked Outer Worlds 1&2 and PoE I & II, as well as Avowed - so whatever they make, I'm probably going to enjoy it.

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[–] darkangelazuarl@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] vane@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

No if it doesn't sell $1B let half of staff go like with ID Software. Force remaining people to use AI and work twice as much.

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Honestly, the new Odsidian game is not going to be on the same level of New Vegas. Due most of the people who made NV left Odsidian (mainly the writers) years ago.

[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 3 points 20 hours ago

Ok but the people that made the og games are on the team.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I don't get this mentality of deciding something isn't as good before it's even been created yet. I don't even think New Vegas is Obsidian's best RPG. I'd say that's Pillars 2.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I can only expect it'll be as lifeless as Avowed.

Hopefully I'm wrong.

[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (19 children)

It's gotta really suck to be some employee at a cool studio... And then microfuckingsoft buys it. I'd be wicked pissed at whoever made that decision.

I don't know why you'd want to work at Bethesda these days, but Id Soft does not deserve to be in that spot.

Stoked Obsidian gets to do a proper title though. I hope they can use a different engine this time.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eh, it's the circle of ~~life~~ game development.

Small studio makes great games, gets bought by big studio, big studio's management flood small studio's staff, the games developed suffer, big studio makes cuts firing almost everyone who was worth a damn, small studio shambles on in name only for a while longer before being mercifully put down. Meanwhile some of the fired devs band together creating a new small studio which makes great games, attracting the attention of a big studio...

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[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly I am surprised they didn't do this years ago. It makes sense to let the studio that made the best Fallout game continue making Fallout games while the other studio works on the long-neglected Elder Scrolls 6. Otherwise we'd just be looking at decade-long droughts between Elder Scrolls and Fallout games at the pace BGS develops.

[–] Klear@piefed.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Especially since Bethesda's Fallouts suck because of the thing that makes TES great - what they do is power fantasy. That's great for Nirn, since you almost always turn out to be some sort of demigod anyway. But a post-apocalyptic RPG? You're meant to be scraping by in dirt. Sure, let the player become a wasteland badass, but not godlike. That sucks.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

its the fault of the player becoming godlike. do you remember the first time you played? even at the end game, i was struggling against enemies and banking on my companions to bail me out. but now that i know what to do, and know how to maximize perk selection, gear, and where to loot and sell stuff, no wonder i become godlike

[–] forzanature@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

Exactly this

[–] placebo@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sad. They have better games to develop than Fallout.

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