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[–] cabb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] CyberMonkey403@lemmy.ml 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Oh wow so those shitty myths about Soviets were projection! And here I thought they were just propaganda. Like clockwork

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Not like they were smart enough to actually make up a story out of the blue.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 84 points 1 day ago (3 children)

it doesn’t end there!

American Rape of Vietnamese Women was Considered “Standard Operating Procedure”

i’d include a quote here but every sentence in this article is more horrible than the last. i recommend you (the entity reading this reply) read this article if discussion of rape and war do not bother you. towards the end, it details how american media (especially movies) worked to downplay (and even invert!!!) these atrocities.

[–] myszka@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago

This is really eye-opening. Didn't know Americans were THIS inhumane during the war in Vietnam.

[–] myszka@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is really eye-opening. Didn't know Americans were THIS inhumane during the war in Vietnam.

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[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 day ago

The second most moral army on Earth

[–] Weydemeyer@lemmy.ml 61 points 1 day ago

English translation: “For services in Song Mi”

[–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

After the war every single single Vietnam vet should have been stripped of citizenship and deported back to Vietnam in chains to spend the rest of their lives buck ass naked out in the jungle disarming UXO at gunpoint for 18 hours a day.

[–] vapordays@leminal.space 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Why would the US gov who sent them to fight on its behalf, turn around and strip them of citizenship and punish them to death? Kinda like saying Trump "should" punish the vets of the Iran war when they get back.

[–] robotElder2@hexbear.net 1 points 4 hours ago

Oh, the same government would never do such a thing of course

[–] CyberMonkey403@lemmy.ml 6 points 21 hours ago

Don't forget the politicians who sent them there and especially the corpos who profiteered

[–] Fancy_Gecko@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 day ago (5 children)

most evil empire in history

[–] Seleni@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Belgium and Spain would like a word.

Seriously, everyone forgets about what Belgium did in the Congo. They really went for quality over quantity with the atrocities there.

[–] baahb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 19 hours ago

Quantity wasn't really something they avoided either...

[–] from_D4rkness@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (68 children)

Germany gets a lot of (well deserved) heat for the nazis, but it is a true testament to the efficacy of propaganda investments that the US does not have a worse reputation. Even hitler wrote about how he was inspired by the US to do the things he did.

I agree with you. The US is, and always has been, a cancer on the planet more malicious than any other.

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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eh.... I don't know if the US has been around long enough to really grab that title. It kinda depends on who you are laying blame to for the vast majority of the genocide against native Americans. Most of the deaths during the great dying in the Americas happened before the concept of America as a country even began.

If you're looking at the amount of people killed and adjusted for the comparative populations, it's probably the Spanish empire. If you are looking at the number of different cultures affected it's probably the British. I would say America wins the most evil modern empire, but history is pretty brutal and America kinda missed the majority of the age of exploration and the colonial era.

[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's the Western European white supremacist Christian patriarchy. That's the empire. They can make up all the fancy names of cities, and states, and draw borders and make believe all they want. It's the same empire.

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Hexbear: 4 comments

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[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

hexbear is a lemmy instance

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

Hexbear is a subreddit

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[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Not to "whatabout...." this scene, but the Danish movie "Land of Mine" was very thought provoking for me in a lot of ways.

It follows German POWs, post WWII, forced to clear mines from the beaches. Their country did indeed place the mines, but these people forced to clear them were not the actual people who placed them, certainly didn't call for them to be placed there, and the Danish government knew they were not trained in landmine disposal. Many were killed in the process, and the whole practice was against the Geneva Convention. They were promised to be freed after clearing the beach but were then shipped off to other beaches to continue this dangerous work. The film was made at one of the actual beaches, and a real mine was discovered during filming.

I don't particularly enjoy war movies, but I feel the good ones show us the ways that all our leaders have forced or conned regular people into doing horrible things in the name of their country, but when we look back in hindsight and see it was a damn lie, it still never changes anything. Every country is guilty of it, and photos like the one above or the movie I mention can be good reminders, hopefully before more people get forced into these situations.

Conversely, Joyeux Noël about the WWI Christmas Truce was great, in seeing all sides grasping the pointlessness of the situation they were placed in and uniting as individuals in peace and friendship surrounding their shared values until the leadership on all sides found out what was going on and declared peace was an unacceptable outcome of war and had to stop at once.

Individuals undoubtably are capable of atrocities, but I think it's very seldom they came up with those ideas on their own, as opposed to cowards far away in a room somewhere forcing others to be their pawns in some pointless game nobody else really wanted to play.

[–] jdr@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pretty amazing pun for the English title though

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

It works on a couple levels.

If you can stomach the content, it's a very powerful film. I highly recommend it. I want to be careful and say it did not make me feel sympathetic to Nazis, but it did make me think about punishment and responsibility and the fine line between justice and revenge.

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