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[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 3 points 1 hour ago

They'll ride the self driving Teslas we got in 2014 to the Mars base built in 2022.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

Given the way he's talked about these robots in the past, I'm fine with them not being ready yet.

“If we build this robot army, do I have at least a strong influence over this robot army?” he told investors. “Not control, but a strong influence… I don’t feel comfortable building that robot army unless I have a strong influence.”

https://futurism.com/robots-and-machines/elon-musk-remarks-robot-army

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Well. He's not complaining about paying Elon Musk via subscription.

It makes sense, as this guy apparently has a business to promote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JerryRigEverything

But still.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

All these 'geniuses' of the current age really make you wonder how many of the supposedly super intelligent innovators we learned about in school were just frauds taking credit for other people's achievements.

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 11 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Thomas Edison ❌ Nikola Tesla ✅

[–] RogueJello@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Elon Musk is the Edison of the current age.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 12 hours ago

Not true. Edison was quite the inventor in his younger days. Elon is just a leech.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 18 points 15 hours ago

Elon Musk is the personification of a moron’s hallucination of a genius.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Modern day Edison.

Edison wasn’t stupid, he could come up with good ideas. He was just better at making others do the work and come up with the ideas for him to take as his own.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I love that he goes after Elon etc really hard. It’s hilarious.

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Still strange that he continues to promote his cyber truck

[–] TRock@feddit.dk 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] B0rax@feddit.org 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I didn’t know, thanks! (Btw, your link includes some tracking, YouTube showed me your Profile without me looking for it..)

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

For anyone's info: everything after & including the "?" In YouTube links is tracking data. Deleting it when posting a link still shows the right video.

[–] chippydingo@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I love seeing those overpriced dumpsters on the back of flatbed tow trucks...hopefully on its way to be dropped off at a scrap yard. Saw one just the other day during my commute home and I couldn't help but smile.

[–] breezeblock@lemmy.ca 123 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When will people realize that Elon only has one trick: lie really baldly really publicly, pressure the shit out of a bunch of smart engineers until they get to their breaking point, and if it works you’re a “genius” — if it doesn’t, just throw it on the pile of other completely outlandish shit that you said that never mattered.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

But he has hair?

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 71 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You missed the critical middle step of pumping up market valuation so you can borrow against the hype.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Surely there is a dump step following the pump?

Or is it pump, borrow, repeat?

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago

Borrowing against shares is the dump.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 86 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Full self driving by 2016!!!!

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I ended up in a situation where I got picked up by a cyber truck of all things, and the current state of self driving is better than I expected, but I still don't trust it. It drove weirdly aggressively and lurchy, even doing frequent lane changes to get ahead, and while the car and people detection worked, the render on the screen was concerning because everything wiggles creepily and disappears and reappears.

Driving it manually seems like a terrible idea as well. No line of sight visibility at all behind and rear sides, way too much blind spot in the front.

10 years after promised completion and it only feels like starting the 'getting there' phase.

[–] RogueJello@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Watched a buddy's Tesla categorize my car + trailer as a car, car + trailer, and then a semi and back again every few seconds. Both cars were parked....

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Who needs lidar

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The visualization bugginess depends on model confidence thesholds, just because it isn't rendered doesn't mean it isn't seen. I also wonder what aggression level it was set to.

Honestly, it's not terrible these days for 90% of the driving, but it will absolutely kill you or someone else if you think for a moment it can drive completely unsupervised - that's the real danger imo.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago

I didn't know it had aggresion levels but it was probably fairly high. I've been in some powerful EVs that were still smooth.

The scary thing with the self driving is that it was stopping for people that I didn't notice and even the human driver had to look at the screen to see it was a person out of view, so even with supervision if it missed something you might not be able to see it.

[–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk -2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

10 years post claim entering a getting there phase is good.

For plasma fusion it took like 40 years post promise to the getting there phase, as long as the getting there phase means private investors are willing to fund

[–] RogueJello@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

The bigger issue, IMHO, was that this was promised as a finished product, not a research project or an investment.

[–] kablez@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Weird, I would have thought Elon was more of a Decepticon kinda guy.

Even their names fit Elon better. Megatron. Starscream. Dirge.

Not a fan of the guy btw, in fact I'm saying if you're the devil you shouldn't call your new demonic general The Archangel Gabriel, ya know?

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, it makes sense. Religions weren't invented to maintain power for the good guys. People carrying crosses saying they worked for the god of light and benevolence would then hang you by your feet and chop you in half. This is pretty spot on for an evil person.

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf -1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The Hammurabi Code, The Pharisees, The Spanish Inquisition, etc. (I'm sure my fellow lemmings could go on and on).

All of civilization has been: 'jumping from one bullshit ghost story to the next to reinforce laws created by the rich'.

Are you new?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

That's Lemmy's resident Catholic apologist. They actually believe Christianity has been proven true. Don't waste your time.

[–] artifex@piefed.social 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Elon needs all of his companies to stay in growth valuation mode. The moment people start pricing them like stable, mature companies (or worse) he’s kinda screwed.

[–] Master167@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Unfortunately, the stock market has been not been pricing stable mature companies. Only growth stocks get money.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cultists do not like when you point out their fairy-deity is full of shit

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most people don't like when their ego is threatened. They'll make up any excuse to protect their flimsy sense of self worth.

It's easier to just go "I guess I was wrong" but most people are emotionally fucking cowards.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's easier to just go "I guess I was wrong" but most people are emotionally fucking cowards.

It really seems like this is easier to me too. The older I get the more I realize that this is one of the most difficult things for a ton of people to do and I don't understand why. Do they genuinely think they are incapable of being wrong? I don't think there's anything special about me so why does this seem so hard for almost everyone else?

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Do they genuinely think

Given that this is about emotions, not thoughts, you're starting off on the wrong direction.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 3 points 1 day ago

I wonder about this a lot, too!

Some cursory searching shows a variety of causes. Maybe from a young age they were repeatedly taught that being wrong made them bad and stupid and unworthy of love, and that's deeply wound around their subconscious now.

It'd be just sad if it wasn't causing incalculable harm to society.

Some people have such a fragile ego, such brittle self-esteem, such a weak "psychological constitution," that admitting they made a mistake or that they were wrong is fundamentally too threatening for their egos to tolerate. Accepting they were wrong, absorbing that reality, would be so psychologically shattering that their defense mechanisms do something remarkable to avoid doing so—they literally distort their perception of reality to make it (reality) less threatening. Their defense mechanisms protect their fragile ego by changing the very facts in their mind, so they are no longer wrong or culpable.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-squeaky-wheel/201811/why-some-people-will-never-admit-that-theyre-wrong

:shrug:

[–] gh0stb4tz@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey, Elon, you’re the world’s richest loser.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Soyyyyyyy..... un perdedor!!!!!!

... so why don't we kill him?

Lyrically, of course.

Like no really, him and all these fuckers have eggshells for egos... mock them relentlessly, gloriously, they will crack.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Considering the resource-raping and the complete absence of Asimov's Laws, we're better off without.

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The entire point of the I, Robot anthology is that the three laws don’t work.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They don’t work when you give robots lots of control. They are a very decent guard rail compared to having none at all

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 11 hours ago

They are a shit guard rail because they can never be formally specified. Again, read the stories.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

True, because it's too easy to subvert them surreptitiously, and yet the present plan of openly seeking world domination, starting by running over schoolchildren and telling teens to commit suicide, is worse.

Well, 2026 isn’t over yet.