Kaneda: "that bike's too big for a kid like you!"
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still have the scar on my knee from doing something like that as a kid. landed on a broken coke bottle that embedded a shard in my knee
Jup same here, I was trying out my new bike that had these brake braces or whatever to make it brake extra strong (at the time,discs on bicycles wasn't a thing yet).
They worked really good.
Lol I did some stupid stuff as a kid... But never this. This is... This is a special thing to do.
Edit: Oh man, the number of times I hit a fuckin rock when roller blading full speed, though... Still got the scars to this day on my knees.
Roller blading was the thing I was super into that I'm amazed didn't kill me.
Add to it the fact that my parents were too cheap to buy me new wheels. The inside-facing side of the wheels were so worn they were basically circular chisels that caused me to pronate my ankles to a ludicrous degree.
....wrong brake. Back brake and a shallow turn causes the desired effect. Had a blast at the same age until i wore my tire through lmao
[couple edits] One time, I pulled the front brake to see what would happen on ice. What happens is you suddenly learn that steering the front wheel is the only thing that keeps a bicycle balanced. Once it skids, you have no steer, and whatever tilting momentum you had at the time is now permanent. Sliding on the ice was actually quite nice [compared to grinding into pavement].
I didn't really understand it at the time, but it set the groundwork for a future understanding when I got into motorcycling. Having the front wash out and tipping into a "low side" crash is much more common on motorcycles, as it's much easier to get to the limits of grip. Same deal with balancing: you're constantly doing minor movements of the [bars] to keep you upright. It's not the gyroscopic effect, it's not your body moving; you're steering with tiny corrections on a mechanism with geometry that makes it work intuitively and with self-correcting steering.
Every time you want to go left, whether you know it or not, you start with a little motion of pushing the bars right. Even if you ride with no hands on the bars, your body shifts to force the bars the opposite way first. The bars and wheel go right, the tires roll to the right, the bike and body fall left, your arms and/or the geometry pull the wheel and bars left. Bam, you're now leaning and steering left while still in balance.
Every bicycle and motorcycle works like this. What makes it a skill worth honing is that once you decouple the "countersteer" motion from the entire turning process, it allows you to have much, much better control over the machine. In motorcycles, it's really valuable to be able to command more or less lean when you misjudge a turn. Something I try to explain to every new rider because bicycles and motorcycles just make it intuitive with the steering geometry, but motorcycles have much larger consequences without any real escalation in required skill beyond general road testing.
I never rode motorcycles (albeit once around a neighborhood for a few minutes), but I did ride a bmx-style bike for a lotta years, lotta miles. And I just (this year) learned about how countersteering is inevitable, or you fall
Point is β I used to cut my tire hard to the right, at slower speed, so that I could turn back into a very tight left circle. Never thought about it though, it just worked. I used to play with that to see how close I could get to a 180Β° turn (like pretending I was a circling buzzard or something)... it was fun. Never knew how cool the underlying physics were
Fast-forward to that one time I was on a motorcycle... I dropped it on it's side by the second lap of the cul-de-sac (at very low speed). Dunno what happened, but I do remeber cutting around a circle, and being amazed at how far you could lean into a circle at such a slow speed... as if you're riding the side-wall of the tires. And then I pulled out of the turn and lost balance, slowly dropping it on it's side
It was so freaking cool to me. But also... man, I couldn't control the bike with my hips(?) the way I could with a bicycle. It didn't exactly translate, cause the bike just had more power and weight. Or possibly because the power control was from my hand and not my feet?
On my bike, I used to be able to stand straight up on my pedals (off my seat) without touching the handlebars, and just cruise by steering with my legs/hips... pretty much all leaning for steering. I would stand up straight hands-free, smoking a cig, and steering with my lower body; just cruising lol (I know, I was super cool man). But it was fun. Always to cruise on a motorcycle, but fuck me, I just don't trust myself to not be dumb
C'est la vie
Same. Can't say I did that exact combo, but I could stand on my mountain bike pedals and clench the seat between my thighs to steer without hands. I did briefly try smoking but a rushed ride to class made me reek of ash, "quit" on the spot (never really started).
But yeah, motorcycles are big and heavy and fast. The weight ratio is way off. I can do some antics, but nowhere near my bicycle level. Part skill, part strength, part knowing that fucking up on a motorcycle at road speeds carries far more consequence than a bicycle.
I do love a slow race. I practice at every red light! I beleive it's important for all aspects of riding by practicing how to wrangle the motorcycle to your will
I could stand on my mountain bike pedals and clench the seat between my thighs to steer without hands.
On a slight decline this was so satisfying
Once when I was a kid, I was an avid, if not particularly talented or intelligent, bike rider. During that timeframe, I saw some professional bike riders; I think they were racing, but I might be misremembering. The point is, I observed that many or all of them had their elbows on the handlebars. I did not notice that their bikes were designed to support this.
As such, the next time I went riding, I figured "hey, the pros probably know stuff I don't. I'll try their methods!" then placed my elbows on the handles.
I had just about long enough to think "now, how do I steer ... " before I crashed.
That sounds like triathaletes, or possibly a time trial road race.
Unfortunately, I couldn't say. I just remember the visual and the event and, honestly, I didn't even remember those until this post sparked my memory.
Precisely so.
The timing on the bottom left panel was so flawless; it's reminiscent of standup comedy
fresh prince vibes
When I was a kid I had a friend borrow my bike and watched him do this (slamming on the front brakes and being flipped over the handlebars), fortunately he wasn't injured, but I was mad because the front reflector broke off. In retrospect, it was worth it because I learned the easy way that you definitely should not do that.
Also that the default design of bike brakes is probably less safe for left handed people, since the front brakes are commonly on the left, but it's important to put more pressure sooner on the back brakes.
We had a kids bike in the shop last year that had control for only the rear brake. Then there was a mechanism that activated the front brake proportionally to how hard the rear brake was engaged.
I get the idea, prevent kids from overdoing the front brake, but... When are they going to learn how to ride a bicycle correctly? When they get a larger bicycle and have farther to fall? It didn't seem like a great idea to me, something marketed for over protective parents.
Also that the default design of bike brakes
In UK it's opposite I think
Huh. It was seemingly random where I am. Always interesting to see whatβs standardized around the world. Smaller/less important markets are full of stuff that are initially designed for specific faraway places.
Pretty sure you're right. Except somehow the bike I learned on only had the one brake. Right hand, but back wheel, contrary to the default. Fairly sure it wasn't from outside the UK, but it had belonged to a relative so maybe they moved it?
When I got a bike with brakes for both wheels, my instincts nearly catapulted me over the handlebars more than once.
Except somehow the bike I learned on only had the one brake.
Common for BMX to only have the one, typically on the back for skids (and possibly for stopping kids firing themselves over the bars)
This wasn't a BMX. It was a child-sized Raleigh that was built like a tank and had solid rubber tyres.
A BMX would have been a lot cooler.
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In some countries bicycles and motorcycles have the front brake on the same side (right side). In Germany and USA I think it is not that way, but I change my bicycles to match my motorbikes - any other system may lead to unintended results. BTW - you should mostly be braking with your front brakes, I think you have have seen trouble from weight distribution shifting forwards.
The civilized world has the front brake on the right, front brake on the left is a north America thing.
Front brake is definitely on the left on every bike I've ridden, in Finland.
I had a big ass hill at my childhood home. Right at the bottom of our driveway. I would hit crazy dangerous speeds on that thing just to see how fast i could get.
One time I aimed badly and was going into a ditch. I tell you, I pulled off a perfect sideways akira slide... right into that ditch. Unfortunately it's really hard to control or stop a slide. So for about .1 seconds I bet I looked really cool. Before I hobbled back home with a busted up bike an some good scrapes and bruises. It's a minor miracle that it wasn't worse. I had a speedometer on that bike and could break 30mph on that hill.
Point being, you can totally make it happen, just don't use the breaks and don't expect to stop like he did. Maybe after you eat shit and break your bike 1000 times you'll actually be able to nail it.
You always engaged the rear hard BEFORE even thinking of bringing the front in.
Should've learned the power of the front brake from doing stoppies.
So did you ever see that movie Torque?
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Was riding my bike with my friend to the mall when i was like 10. It was kind of wet out as it had just rained and we were going over an overpass. On the the way down the hill, there was some metal thing in the road and i tried to stop too quick. Ended up going over my handlebars head first and launching into my friends back wheel. We both crashed in the middle of the road with oncoming cars. Im pretty sure my life flashed, but luckily my friend was able to help me up in time and cars saw us.
I still have a scar on my left hand from when I tried this when i was 10. The handbrake handle basically dug into my hand as I trebuchet'd myself across a carpark next to my house π€£
I bought a little folding ebike. Wanted to get across a four way stop quickly so leaned forward to pedal hard instinctively. Went over the handlebars right in the middle of the intersection in front of everyone. Good times.
Let the intrusive thoughts win.
Congratulation, kid, you just achieved the Akira Yeet.
did something like this with a friend, not on purpose, we were going downhill and the road was a bit wet, we slammed the brakes before a curve (like we used to do) and we just slid over the asphalt on our asses like idiots.
We didn't get hurt, just some bruises, but if a car had been coming from the other side it could have been dangerous, the visibility was not good since it was a 90Β° curve with some high walls
I did this on a BMX with the standard pedal brakes. Went face first onto the blacktop. Meat crayon status. Would not recommend.
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I've definitely locked up my brakes on a BMX with a pedal brake many times. I remember, as a kid, going down a hill and trying to see who could leave the longest skid mark at the bottom. I was never thrown off the bike. It just ate up some tire.
It depends on the brake, rear brake at speed will only cause it to fishtail, maybe skid a bit, can be epic. Grabbing the front is triggering the trebuchet, a different kind of epic.
In the comic above the right hand is typically the front on motorcycles and bikes. (Some bikes in Europe reverse the layout and have the right brake as the rear, though.)
Yeah, but the parent comment is talking about pedal brakes. Everywhere I've seen, that's wired to the rear wheel. But that comment is saying that the commenter launched himself when braking on a pedal brake.
It was one of those situations where the bike was way too small for me. Lol. Head-over-handrails.
one time i was riding full blast then got distracted and slammed straight into the wall.
@kersploosh A kid can stop like in that panel. But just tapping the brakes while upright, or moving fast, will send the rider flying.
Just jump off the bike
Thats what i did when going fast and needed to stop
I've heard a few similar stories about the first time someone rode a bike with disc brakes.
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