EVs are already safer than ICE cars. Specifically regarding catching fire, they are about 20 times safer on average, people seem to forget ICE cars are literally exploding gas 2 feet away from their crotches
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The biggest difference (from a fire perspective) is that firefighters can't just throw water on an electric car in an emergency. Fires are less common for electric cars, but dealing with them when they are on fire is a lot more difficult (metal fires are nasty). There are some specialty suppressants that can be used, but they aren't widely available - they're expensive compared to water, you can't just get them out of a city water hookup, and it's difficult for a firetruck to carry them in high volume. Common practice is to just let an electric car fire burn itself out.
This battery design sounds like it won't self-ignite from overheating, which is good. But... crashes would be a concern. If the car were overheating or on fire (upholstery, gasoline splash from an ICE vehicle, lubricant oil, etc) it would be difficult to deal with safely. Sodium and water is... kind of spectacular: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4aVueFmOHo
Buddy, gasoline fires cannot be put out with water either, Firefighters are trained to just contain them... basically same situation
Yea...they can, the video you posted even talkes about how they would put it out. You starve it of oxygen and cool the fuel down to pre-ignition temps.
you can't do what they displayed on the vid with a size car fire… they do contain them more easily though
Sodium and water is... kind of spectacular:
But sodium ions and water are something we deal with on a daily basis, when we salt food. The characteristics of elemental sodium, as a metal, are basically irrelevant to discussing its safety as ions or bonded in molecules.
Ive been watching this with interest, CATL is already producing sodium cells for Nissan Leafs.
EVs are already safer than ICE cars, you geniuses. One day, you might learn to look this up on the internet.
EVs aren't safer than ICE cars now?!?
I kinda doubt that you can make something so absurdly energy-dense and fireproof at the same time.
I think thats part of it: sodium batteries are less energy dense than lithium batteries.
The car cult is a dead end for humanity, regardless of whether your batteries burn you alive. The fact that this is even a topic is disgusting.