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[–] Blibly@lemmy.world 85 points 2 days ago (2 children)

States rights, until it's not.

Free speech, until it's not.

Small government, until it's not.

Protect the children, just kidding.

These ghouls thrive on weaponised hypocrisy. The only thing they believe in is nothing.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

States Rights has always been a dog whistle for slavery and later Jim Crow.

And now? They are practically trying to repeal the 14th and they'll probably use that to make the 13th and 15th suspect too.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Not practically, they actually tried it with Executive Order 14160.

Nobody is safe because no one has birthright citizenship under the Trump admin. Eventually they will move on from immigrants and target anyone they deign to notice.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In January, to punish America for the Midterm Bloodbath, Trump will announce an executive order for a Draft, and they'll send all the young trouble makers to die in a Russia-style meatgrinder war in Iran. MAGA won't care if they kill a million young American Democratic Socialists.

I'll say it right now: There is no possible way that my son will be getting drafted into a Trump MAGA War.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It would actually backfire because 57% of male youth voted for Trump, and women don't get drafted in the USA.

For anybody who doesn't understand why 57% of male youth would vote for Trump: TikTok, Twitter, Meta, and Google told them to.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So what? MAGAs are safe, only Lefties will get drafted, and they'll draft women, too. This is the 21st century, women want equality, so the Draft is the perfect opportunity to give it to them.

It's not like they have to be good soldiers, they're just sending them to be chopped on the front line. That way you get rid of your political enemies, and you can blame Iran for it.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 1 day ago

They could certainly try that but historically not how drafts work at all. You can't discriminate draft based on political affiliation, it would just get tied up in courts over first amendment rights.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Well it's a dog whistle and a twisted truth which is why it's such a problematic thing to fight.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

I would say they believe they should have or be close to power and influence. But nothing beyond their own aggrandizement and atavism

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 70 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We need to start arresting ICE for actions taken while on the job. This is the consequence of tolerating them.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A little direct action can be surprisingly effective.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 6 points 2 days ago

Like the Dallas sniper who opened fire on an ICE van and ended up killing a detainee?

Sorry, but I'm more interested in Colorado's AG publicly inviting the public to make reports on the crimes of ICE.

[–] northernlights@lemmy.today 30 points 2 days ago

A federal agency of the united states saying states rights don't apply. Everything's fine.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

By that logic neither the ICE thugs are protected.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

There aren't that many federal courts in the country. Wouldn't take much to create decades of backlog if they can't prosecute offenders in state courts.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Then none of the state property laws apply to the building either.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What about the employee's cars in the parking lot?

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 12 points 2 days ago
[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 1 points 2 days ago

To shreds you say?

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

...are those normally not subject to state law? Like...I don't understand your question.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think federal laws cover car theft until they cross state lines.

[–] bufalo1973@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

I guess they don't cover burning them either.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Cars cost money and people have trouble getting around without them.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

Well, yeah, the stuff they do in Concentration Camps is really awful, they don't want to have to answer for that. Would you?

No water or electricity for you then

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago
[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 4 points 2 days ago

Well yeah, how else are they legally going to rape children

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago

There are no laws, we made the whole thing up

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I suppose a state can sign it's rights away in a contract just like any other entity, but I'd love to know if one EVER HAS. Because I don't think that's up to GEO and ICE to determine between the two of them which laws they are obligated to follow or not. At first I assumed that ICE had gotten some actual US State to agree to this, which would be horrible but at least would make more sense than a private fucking company and a federal agency unilaterally declaring they won't follow the laws of the state they are operating in, which is what this appear to be.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club -1 points 2 days ago

Officially, state law doesn't influence federal facilities. Federal buildings don't need to meet state or municipal building codes. State law doesn't apply on federal land.

States have agreed to this.

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

We hold these Truths to Be self-evident: That Reality does Not Exist, Disavowed By Our beloved Leader with His inalienable Powers...

Novus Ordo Seclorum indeed. It's right there in that holiest of scriptures.

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