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[–] owl@infosec.pub 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

350 shootings in 2023 is crazy. That's actually so many. How tragic.

[–] awmwrites@lemmy.cafe 82 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] jordanpwnsyou@lemmy.zip 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

lol yeah, right? Being able to say “every year,” would be nothing short of a miraculous improvement for us…

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Imagine living in a country where having one school shooting every year would be a miraculous improvement. I really feel for the US.

[–] SolacefromSilence@fedia.io 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

More likely daily/weekly unfortunately

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Sure it sounds bad when you point out that it happens almost every day. But, that is just an average over the span of a year.

When you really look at it and realize that most schools in the US are closed for at least a month's worth of holidays, 3 months for summer vacation, and of course 2 days out of every week. Well, then you will see that it's really much much worse than you originally thought.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

IIRC some days don't have a school shooting. Not sure about weeks or months though.

[–] DakRalter@thelemmy.club 1 points 6 hours ago

IIRC some days don't have a school shooting.

You mean weekends and holidays?

[–] Supercrunchy@programming.dev 56 points 2 days ago
[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 71 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Meme Misuse, in my Lemmy?

It’s more likely than you think.

[–] Eh_I@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago
[–] kuiskaaja@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

people here really don't know how to do memes

most of the time the meme is either 5-15+ years old or the meme format is horribly butchered

i really don't understand why though

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[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 41 points 2 days ago (5 children)
[–] zener_diode@feddit.org 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That page lists attacks in general, and not just at schools but also universities. Out of the 25 attacks listed for Germany (so since 1990), only 11 are shootings, and 14 have no deaths at all. So, you're right, Germany does know what school schootings are.

But compare this to a total of 67 (damn that number!) in the same timeframe in the UK ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom ), despite the UK containg about 20 million less people than Germany. Unfortunately, Wikipedia doesn't have a comparable list for France.

But both of those numbers just cannot compare with the US, where just the school shootings that Wikipedia lists (not all attacks, just shootings) add up to 882 over the same time frame. And its not due to higer population, the US only has about 4 times as many people as Germany.

Sorry, I realise you're kinda just trying to say, school attacks do happen in Germay too, and you're right. But you sent me down a rabbit hole. And the number of school shootings in Germany is so low that as a parent you can reasonably assume it won't happen (and they are rarely big enough to land in the news), whereas in the US it seems to be something that everyone thinks about, that schols plan for, and that has a not inconsiderable chance of happening.

Edit: spelling

[–] banause@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago

There is also this important but depressing website. https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

[–] Sv443@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I was 7 when the Winnenden shooting happened (it's relatively close by). It doesn't come close to how bad some of the shootings in the US are but I still remember it as a core memory.
When your society isn't used to violence, a shooting sends an actual anti-violence message. In the states it seems to only instigate political drama and grifters and encourages more people to do the same.
I wanna say guns are the problem but that would be very naive. The easy access means the barrier of entry is SO much lower, allowing other problems to be magnified and lead to the actual shooting. It's such an insidiously deep rooted problem that I couldn't even begin to try to suggest how to fix it.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

guns are the problem but that would be very naive.

Meth isn't the problem. The real problem is lack of dopamine that causes people to seek pleasure.

A bad diet doesn't cause obesity. It's the person's mental state that causes them to seek out food as comfort.

The only problem with this viewpoint is that people are inherently fucking crazy and you'll never ever fix that. So you need to restrict the things that allow them to hurt other people with their crazy. And when they're going to hurt themselves with their crazy, you do your best to help coach and guide and support them.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Meth also has several legitimate medical uses.

[–] Sv443@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

yeah I might not have said it in the best way but that's pretty much what I meant. Taking away access now will be close to impossible, with how polarized everyone is.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I think Michael Moore hit it pretty much straight on the head.

Having guns makes people feel empowered against others. A wimp can take down basically anyone if they create the right circumstances. So when people feel wronged, there's this huge itch to see that as a viable solution.

There isn't a single solution, but taking away (easy) access to guns is certainly a hugely efficient step

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We recently had 6 mass shootings in under 48 hours!

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

U! S! A! U! S! A!

[–] Angular@crazypeople.online 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s because we (Americans) not only hate everyone but also ourselves.

[–] BucketBong@p.hobo.social 14 points 2 days ago (6 children)

We all fucking hate ourselves, that's no excuse.

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[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

At least monthly, on average

[–] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Oh shit. My estimation of monthly was out 400%.

Luckily, ICE continues to proactively make all the suspects of all the crimes disappear. Any day now all the school shootings will stop along with all the other crimes and we'll live the easy life promised by the AI revolution........ /s

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago

Yearly school shooting? Like with camera?

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