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[–] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 1 points 7 minutes ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago)

They have been using the minimum estimate for CO2 impact on heating since the 1970s. The level of pollution in the air has been hiding the true impact and as the various causes of pollution are removed the earth energy balance is changing such that it turns out that the highest end of the CO2 impact is actually correct, which doubles the heating effect. There has been about a third of climate scientists who have been warning about this but they have consistently been called the extremists or the doomers and they have been right all along. They were always right, the evidence was based on actual experiments of the impact of CO2 and not by measuring the planet.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 34 minutes ago

Earth become Mars when?

[–] Addition@sh.itjust.works 37 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

In my own lifetime, the summer highs have increased 20⁰F (mid 70's -> mid 90's) in 20 years. When I point this out to people and extrapolate a linear trend, another 20⁰ in 20 years, I get told I'm an insane doomer conspiracy theorist. Especially when I point out that another 10 degrees for a few weeks is all it takes to flash fry crops.

Yet these same people have been bitching nonstop about how hot it is this year. Yet apparently, I'm the crazy one. 🤪

Funny thing is that in my mind, I'm still presenting these people with a weenie hut jr vision of the future. As we all know, this heating trend is actually exponential, not linear.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 30 minutes ago

The problem is that you're extrapolating linearly. I believe these scientists point out that it's an exponentially increasing positive feedback loop.

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The data above says it's 0.55 degrees C over the last 20 years. Not that I'm trying to downplay it. A couple degrees is all it takes to cause massive disruptions.

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago

Average. Where they are, it could be more significant.

[–] Krusty@quokk.au 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's not linear. It's exponential.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 7 hours ago

Shouldn't have stopped reading at "actually".

[–] Syndication@lemmy.today 28 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

It's been 100 degrees for days on end here. When do we start living underground? I don't want to live in hot miserable world for the rest of my life... HELP!!!!

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 24 minutes ago

Move to higher altitude. Or get solar panels, and air conditioning in a very small, well insulated room.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 37 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Best we can do is pretend it's not happening and accelerate it.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Drill baby drill!

[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 hours ago

Best I can do is paper straws

[–] Krusty@quokk.au 5 points 8 hours ago

Take off your clothes and come in it. The water is 104F.

[–] hash@slrpnk.net 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It feels like sometimes we fail to comnunicate that while climate models are extremely rigorous and meticulously put together, there's always the possibility of unknown factors.

I appreciate scientists aversion to alarmism, and the difficulty of balancing effective communication on the topic. But if we're honest our species has been dicking around with the most complex system we know of. Even if we start doing everything right there are certainly any number of surprises lurking that we will need to deal with. And to some degree guessing at the scope of the unknown is impossible.

Can someone tell me I'm wrong and somehow we know where all the environmental landmines are? Cause I want to believe that the "this much inventment and change equals this much less warming" can be relied upon, but I worry it's tempering the apparent scale of the crisis.

[–] Krusty@quokk.au 14 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

It's fossil fuels. Something like a 100 million barrels of oil a day.

But people blame the cows. LMAO

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

It's both. There are trillions of cattle producing an enormous quantity of feces every day that produce enormousness quantities of methane, which is a far worse greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide per gram

[–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

It's BOTH of what you listed, and more, that are affecting climate. Just because something is a greater percentage of the cause, doesn't negate the other contributors.

[–] Krusty@quokk.au 6 points 8 hours ago

Exponential change is exponential....

shocking..

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] snoons@piefed.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

how else are we going to get hydrogen fuel

[–] breezeblock@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago
[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Don’t they do this every week at this point?

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 hours ago

That tends to happen with exponential acceleration.