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submitted 9 months ago by mfat@lemdro.id to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Do you use any web ui's for your Linux server? I'm comfortable managing my server using the command line, but I also want a graphical interface that shows an overview of what is running on the server, the way the resources are being used what containers are running and so on. Also file download uploads would be great to have.

What do you recommend which is light and resources and is suitable for less powerful servers with low ram?

So far these are the more interstating tools I've found: (they vary in functionality their provide)

CasaOS Cockpit SartOS Orb Kasm

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 47 points 9 months ago
[-] Meuzzin@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Ummm Webmin? Can't believe it hasn't been mentioned....

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[-] constantokra@lemmy.one 17 points 9 months ago

Btop tells me everything I need to know, and it does it with style.

[-] mfat@lemdro.id 2 points 9 months ago

I mainly need this when i don't have access to my own laptop and ssh keys.

[-] constantokra@lemmy.one 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You could use a hardware key for ssh with a passphrase protected key. I use a solo key v1 myself. There are even keys that let you enter a pin on the device instead of the computer, so you don't have to worry about key loggers. And you can set up Sudo to work with a key too.

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[-] frustbox@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago

Just SSH. Every public facing piece of software (I.e. a web interface) adds more complexity for misconfiguration or security vulnerabilities.

You can mount you remote filesystem locally and use your local file manager and text editors to manage most tasks. If you use ansible you can make changes to a local configuration and deploy the state to the server without needing to run anything special on the server side. It is especially effective if you also run docker.

And for monitoring I usually just have a tmux with btop running. Which is fine if you don't need long term time series data, then you might want to look at influxdb/grafana - but even those I would run locally behind a firewall, with the server reporting the data to the database.

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[-] andruid@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago

Cockpit has been my go too, very quick to just get up and working plus including a web terminal for the rest of what you need.

[-] Helix@feddit.de 11 points 9 months ago

Have a look at Netdata, Alerta and Prometheus.

Of all the things you mentioned Cockpit is the only sane one.

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

I want to view multiple endpoints at once though.
They had that feature but they discontinued it.

[-] Helix@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

Cockpit can still.connect to multiple machines: https://cockpit-project.org/guide/latest/feature-machines

Where did you see that they discontinued it? Or do you mean netdata, who hid this behind a paywall?

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It can connect singly. It used to have the ability to stack graphs and details of multiple machines at a time. Not just a dropdown that switches you fully.
Here's the feature introduction: Multi-Server Dashboard
The removal announcement was buried in the release notes which is why I say it was quietly discontinued, but I sure spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to enable it before finding that.

I'll try to find it later once I'm not on mobile, but you can tell from the above link that nothing like that exists in Cockpit today.

[-] Helix@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Thank you for the explanation. That sucks.

If it's only the monitoring you want, you can set up something with Grafana and Prometheus very quickly.

[-] fart_pickle@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

+1 for cockpit. Easy to install, easy on the eyes and makes things done.

[-] macattack@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

I'm headless and mostly use containers, so I run lazy docker

[-] yum13241@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

How did you write this comment, Headless Horseman? 🎃

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[-] yum13241@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

What I meant is that how could you use Lemmy without a head, but thanks anyway.

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[-] unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The web UI of Proxmox is really good

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago

Second to that. It's very rare I need to do anything in cli in proxmox

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I tried to install Cockpit on Debian, and it just downloaded an entire Linux Desktop? Really weird, had the configs and open port all but still the UI was not showing.

Might give it another try but would prefer something less resource heavy

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

"Hey you wanted NetworkManager, right? We've decided everyone wants NetworkManager."

Last time I didn't use --no-install-recommends

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

Ooh right! I hate Debian that it does this.

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

It makes sense in a lot of cases, just not all of them.
Huh, it's got to be the maintainers who make that list, right? Not the developers?
Either way, that must be an awkward philosophical snarl. "Oh I see we're running Gnome again."

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

It was a hyperbole so not really a complete desktop, but a lot of tools that where duplicating others in purpose

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

I've had it cascade and install an entire desktop.

[-] zzzzzz@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

I have found Nginx Proxy Manager to be a huge time-saver for configuring nginx and certbot.

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I used ArozOS before, but I have now no usecase anymore for UIs for the host OS

[-] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

I tried out some of these today. Umbrel, CapRover and Tipi aren't on your list yet.

They look beautiful and have some nice prebuilt installations but it gets really ugly soon as you need a custom component. I just deleted it all and switched over to portainer.

I tried installing gnome to rdp into my oracle free tier server and it wasn't remotely (hehehe) worth it. Very laggy and direct interfaces are just far superior so no to that as well. Plus it takes up precious space and resources.

I think the best option is a dashboard like dashy or homepage to keep your service interfaces together. Portainer is excellent for container management.

These weird "OS" style container platforms are really bizarre and I don't think too well thought out. They're kinda toys really. Looked really amazing but they show their limitations really quickly.

[-] nixfreak@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 months ago
[-] qaz@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Cockpit as web UI, and SSH otherwise

[-] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago

To be honest, Cockpit is the only (Web) one I know about.

RPM slave here.

[-] LinuxSBC@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago
[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 months ago

Netdata is great for monitoring

[-] mfat@lemdro.id 2 points 9 months ago

I tried it once the UI is very complicated.

[-] node815@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

This person gives a good run down of how to integrate NetData + Prometheus + Grafana to create a nice dashboard:

https://noted.lol/netdata-prometheus-and-grafana/

I am not much into those, but got into Netdata, it's really just a nice information portal which provides way more data than one can use, but they pretty much expose it so you can use it for your purposes. I have it on a few of my systems and like looking at it when they seem slow.

For what I have for my end though - I use Proxmox for my VM's and then use Portainer for a good rundown of what ports I have available to allocate. But then I also use docker compose files whenever I can so it's easier to update/deploy as needed.

[-] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

What you want is monitoring: how about looking for monitoring services? I found monit recently and would like to try it. Simple SNMP would do too I think

[-] rodbiren@midwest.social 2 points 9 months ago

Portainer has been great. I almost don't need ssh

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

lxc-ls -f

Shows me what is running and that's about it.

[-] Madiator2011@lm.madiator.cloud 2 points 9 months ago

Do you have links to SartOS and Orb?

[-] bladewdr@infosec.pub 2 points 9 months ago

I just use ssh for management. Monitoring is handled by nagios.

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