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[-] squaresinger@feddit.de 109 points 8 months ago

That's why piracy is back on the menu.

[-] kniescherz@feddit.de 37 points 8 months ago

That has nothing to do with piracy or not. Its just a device to play media. You can use a firetv to 100% stream pirated content via kodi or plex and still have to see this shit.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 14 points 8 months ago

I don’t see it. I have mine blocked from dialing home, receiving updates and autoplays have long been turned off.

[-] kniescherz@feddit.de 18 points 8 months ago

Good for you. It does not change my point though that a device which can stream media having ads not really has anything to do with more piracy.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Sure it does. As a pirate I’ve chosen to disable the device’s ability to connect to Amazon to annoy me with ads, and pirate the content they’d usually serve me instead of subscribing to anything. Not that hard to understand. If I could find a way to uninstall all the Amazon apps, I would.

[-] redlightdistrict@beehaw.org 10 points 8 months ago

Did you pirate the TV? No, this actually has nothing to do with piracy. What's hard to understand.

[-] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago

Unbelievable that you could miss the point this much and still ask "what's hard to understand" lmfao

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Evidently it’s too complicated for you.

I didn’t pirate my computer either, but almost all the content on it is.

Also, the original comment I responded to said “and still have to see this shit.” I don’t, because of piracy strats.

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[-] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 8 months ago

I disagree. I will not under any circumstances be advertised to in my own home.

I'm happy to pay for your goods and services, but if you break that agreement our relationship is immediately concluded. The penalty for breaking the original terms of our agreement is that I will take what I originally paid for in perpetuity. You had your chance.

Same rules apply for attempting to renegotiate the rules whilst the ball is in play: see Amazon's new trend of attempting to charge an additional monthly fee of the same amount as the initial service to access documentaries etc. They're finished.

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[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 8 months ago

It can be, in some way. For example when content is exclusive to video streaming platforms which are only available through these devices.

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[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 10 points 8 months ago

Or you know have the sense god gave goats and be able to see the neon sign as they have been blowing out Amazon home devices for years. Now they need to recoup that half decade of losses. Buckle up.

Honestly, this is why we are here. I get it if you use their delivery because getting stuff can be hard depending on the area. But this stuff, where there are half dozen competing options… come on.

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[-] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 9 points 8 months ago

It's unbelievable. The dumb fuckers literally figured out a way to beat piracy. High quantity, easily accessible content at an appetizable price. Even one for TV, one for music, $10-15 a month, I had no issue. Everyone made out like a bandit, I was satisfied, and they all made billions.

Now you can't even use YouTube without being bombarded with ads, and streaming is quickly becoming worse than cable was. Piracy is definitely back on the table, and the fuckers don't have license to whine about it this time. They literally had it licked, but then got too greedy, so fuck them.

[-] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 33 points 8 months ago

Why is it legal to bait and switch people by adding ads after you pay for it? Every single TV should be refunded.

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

May we think about one more question also?

Why is this even possible? We should have this thing called software, that should be replecable without changing the hardware, right?

[-] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

I also think that all consumer hardware should have mandatory open source APIs and, when viable, a way to replace the current software.

[-] ozoned@beehaw.org 31 points 8 months ago

At this point just get a rasbperry pi, or some similar device, and run it as a regular computer. Firefox, ublock origin, don't worry about ads, and turn it into a machine that is capable of soooooooo much more. Hell, any PC will work. Steam Deck, NUC, that old laptop you have laying around? Been running little NUCs on my TVs for years and so happy I don't have to put up with that nonsense.

[-] kniescherz@feddit.de 15 points 8 months ago

Which OS is good for this? Which remote can be used? I use my Stick to launch several apps like Plex, Smarttube Next, ARD Mediathek (German TV series). Not needing anything more. But a snappy remote and support for various audio and video codecs is key.

[-] ozoned@beehaw.org 6 points 8 months ago

I'm a linux nerd and I jut run stock Fedora. It's desktop is like a phone UI, so lots of folks are familiar with it.

I then use a wireless keyboard and trackball. T

here are tons of remotes out there,but I don't have any experience with then. Let me know if you find a good remote though. 😁

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[-] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 5 points 8 months ago

I run CoreELEC/LibreELEC on all my streaming devices. It only runs Kodi but since Kodi has tons of addons it is fairly easy to customize. Kodi also plays pretty much any codec in existence and has support for various remotes.

https://coreelec.org/

https://libreelec.tv/

If you're planning to play 4k content you will want something with a little bit more power than a Raspberry Pi 4. For Dolby Vision you need one of the few supported devices.

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[-] schnick@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 8 months ago

Why do people still use those?

[-] Thalestr@beehaw.org 36 points 8 months ago

They’re cheap. That’s as far as some people think about it.

[-] quicksand@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago

I use a fire stick because I'm familiar with them and they are much better than the shitty OS built into my TVs. Is there an alternative you recommend? I'm open to changing, especially with how theyve been pushing ads and paid rentals lately

[-] Cwilliams@beehaw.org 7 points 8 months ago
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[-] Skimmer@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago

If you have the money, I'd go for an NVIDIA Shield, or maybe an Apple TV. Well worth the money.

Otherwise, for budget, you could get a Chromecast, which gives you more control over it and has generally less garbage than the Fire TVs do for instance, since you can easily change its launcher and debloat with ADB.

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[-] snowe@programming.dev 5 points 8 months ago

Apple TV. No ads at all, it’s faster than every alternative (unless you’re building your own server), and it is much easier to use than every alternative.

[-] kniescherz@feddit.de 7 points 8 months ago

Can you install adfree youtube on it with sponsorblock?

[-] kniescherz@feddit.de 13 points 8 months ago

I got a 4K Max one because it was only 35€. I want to upgrade to a shield pro successor which is overdue by now.

[-] Mkengine@feddit.de 9 points 8 months ago

If you want to do this because of the full screen ads you may be too late.

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

Lol yeah the timing of their comment couldn't have been more ironic

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[-] Muckelchen@feddit.de 25 points 8 months ago

The Fire TV Sticks are getting more unusable with every update.

[-] Guildo@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago
[-] Cwilliams@beehaw.org 9 points 8 months ago

Most updates are OTA. They don't give you a choice

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 6 points 8 months ago

I think they're recommending that you do something like firewall/piehole them

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[-] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago

Glad I don't really watch content anymore. Though, between the Roku TV my kid has, and the big Samsung TV in our living room...my pihole is constantly hammered by both of them.

[-] eleitl@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago

Which is why I just bought an nVidia Shield Pro. Custom launcher coming tomorrow. Time to start torrenting again.

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[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

Isn't a firestick basically a chromecast? I mean, google is a shitty company in matters about privacy or ethics, but amazon isn't much better

[-] Blackout@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago

I can cast to my internet-disabled TV anything to it, including pirate streaming sites with no ads. 20 years ago I ran a hdmi from my desktop and used a wireless touchpad to load downloaded stuff. It truly is the golden age of piracy

[-] passepartout@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago

They have been built onto android until now, but i read that they wanted to ditch that and make their own os from scratch

[-] yukichigai@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

They're more like AndroidTV boxes with a full menu and HDMI-CEC support, only they came out back in the day when Chromecasts were just for casting. They were also dirt cheap; unfortunately that's because they were made with bargain-basement parts which often failed or started to overheat easily a few months in.

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