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What Palestinian Children Face in Israeli Prisons (time.com)

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[-] machinin@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago

[During the ceasefire, Israel released] 240 Palestinian women and children. The deal...raised questions about why so many children were being held in Israeli prisons. The reality is that the most common charge against children is throwing stones.

An estimated 10,000 Palestinian children have been held in military detention over the past 20 years, with Save the Children noting that they are “the only children in the world who are systematically prosecuted in military courts.” As of Nov. 20, Israeli forces had arrested as many as 880 Palestinian children this year, a practice made possible under Israel’s draconian military laws.

Israel is just sickening. Someone asked me why I consider Israel's actions as genocide. The treatment of an ethnic group's children is a key indicator. Israel and genocide Joe have to be stopped.

[-] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 22 points 10 months ago

Even hamas, whose morals are conspicuous by their absence, has qualms about kidnapping children. Also to women, but as usual men can only be either potential threats or disposable resources.

[-] snek@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

It's okay, they're just KKKKKHHHAMAS mini terrorists. /s

[+] Fitik@kbin.social -25 points 10 months ago

@snek Do you know Hamas recruitment age?

@machinin

[-] machinin@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Out of curiosity, how old should someone be when they are detained without any due process, held without charges and at the whim of some invading military force? When is a good age to start doing that?

[-] snek@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Around 12 in Israel.

[+] Fitik@kbin.social -13 points 10 months ago

@snek Can you give your source? Or very inappropriate joke if it is

@machinin

[-] snek@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Youngest prisoner in Israeli jail is a 12-year-old girl
12-year-old Palestinian detained and interrogated by Israeli forces (a different 12-year-old)
From Middle East Eye:

In August 2016, Israel amended a law that stated that children under the age of 14 could not be held criminally responsible, in order to charge Ahmed Manasra, 13 at the time of his arrest, with attempted murder.

‘One name in a long list’: the pointless death of another West Bank teenager

A report by Human Rights Watch accusing Israel of imposing policies that amount to apartheid, found that: “Israeli forces regularly arrest children during night-time raids, interrogate them without a guardian present, and hold those as young as 12 in lengthy pretrial detention.” Israel’s foreign ministry has previously accused Human Rights Watch of a “longstanding anti-Israeli agenda” and called the report a “propaganda pamphlet” that had “no connection to facts or reality on the ground”.

Shahed, the Military Court Watch 20% have a lawyer present, 0% have a parent present.
A full breakdown of all detainees and their ages

edit: formatting of links

another edit:

Here are the testimonies of about 22 children who had been detained by Israel, interrogated, and in a lot of cases physically abused and tortured at the age of 12

Here are some that I wasn't able to read so easily:

(1)

I was held there until around 1:00 a.m. During this time they allowed me to use the toilet but they did not offer me any food. I was very tired but I couldn’t sleep because a soldier slapped me each time I nodded off.

(2)

Then a Palestinian ambulance arrived and the staff snatched me and took me away in the ambulance. The soldiers shot at the ambulance as it drove away. When the ambulance got out of sight I was transferred to a private car to make sure the soldiers don’t detain me again. The car took me to a local hospital where I was treated and I spent a night there. The doctors painfully brought my nose back into position, took an X-Ray of my face and arm and then sent me home the following day.

(3)

The jeep drove to a nearby military watchtower where I was taken inside. I sat on the floor and a group of three soldiers took turns beating me for about 20 minutes. Then they threw me out of the watchtower and shackled my legs and tied my hands behind my back with one plastic tie which was painful. I remained outside next to the jeep for about two hours. At around 4:30 p.m. the commander came and started to question me.

(4)

The troop carrier then stopped at the Israeli police station inside the settlement of Binyamin. I was put in a waiting room where I sat on the floor for about an hour. Then a policeman came and took me outside where they wash cars. The policeman made me sit on the ground until around 5.00 a.m. It was a cold night. I tried to fall asleep but I couldn’t because it was too cold. At around 5.00 a.m. I was taken for interrogation.

@Fitik@kbin.social it would be nice if you could confirm reading this and maybe share your opinion, since I spent quite some time putting these together, thanks 😬

[-] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

@Fitik@kbin.social, hi, just wondering if you checked my response to this question yet? Like I said, I put a lot of effort into it so I'd appreciate you basically "confirming" you got it.... it's because I find it hard to believe this needs to be sourced.

[-] Fitik@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago

@snek Yes I have, however I didn't see it mention IDF recruitment age anywhere in it. And underage detainees is not something unique to Israel.

@machinin

[-] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You didn't ask about IDF recruitment age...

I hope this was a mistake.

Edit: just FYI this is what it looks like

What does it look like for you on kbin?

[-] Fitik@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

@snek I am sorry for the misunderstanding then, I thought it was a reply to my comment about Hamas recruitment age.

@machinin

[-] snek@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

From what I've read, some people are recruited as teenagers.

Now a question to you , why did you ask me this question instead of googling it? 🤔 I'm assuming you already know the answer. So what's your point with the question? Thanks.

Edit: completely unrelated but I didn't get a notification of you mentioning me... not sure why /:

[-] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

@Fitik@kbin.social this was the answer to your other question

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

As soon as they are out of prison they can join.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Genocide Joe is cute but going after Benjamin Netanyahu would be more effective.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Israelis trying to make the Chinese concentration camps look like a fun trip with the family.

Ahmad Manasra, who was 13 when he was arrested in connection to the stabbing of two Israeli citizens in occupied East Jerusalem in 2015. Israeli courts found that Manasra did not participate in the stabbings, according to Amnesty International, but he has since been serving a nine-and-a-half-year sentence for attempted murder.

[-] b3an@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You can’t downvote the truth. It’s TIME. Not ‘The Daily Telegraph’. I think this entire situation is messed up, for both sides. Children shouldn’t be the ones to suffer for this.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

You can’t downvote the truth.

You must be new here.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

here

Earth?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Also: wind and fire.

Say, do you remember dancing in September?

[-] febra@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

I can't understand the people that downvote these news stories. Why?

[-] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 30 points 10 months ago

Many zionists who are unhappy with facts that contradict their narrative, I guess.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hasbara, try to deny reality by creating group gas lighting. Which is easier online since you don't need real people to do it.

Hell, might even be real people. They're either in denial, or they know it's true but they know it looks bad. So they downvoted anyway. In any circumstance it's not a good look

[-] snek@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Not sure why, it was downvoted right after I posted it. Maybe the headline doesn't read like a "news article", but it is, and it's also recent.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Schizos

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 23 points 10 months ago

For anyone saying Hamas should surrender, this is what losing to the IDF looks like.

[-] Pickle_Jr@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

Don't worry guys, they're only arresting and effectively torturing these kids so that we can defeat Hamas ♥️.

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