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[-] pink_mist@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

ISA: the CIA backed alternative to socialism.

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

Is this a bit or are ISA actually :ursus-hexagonia:

[-] Commander_Data@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

If you say anything negative about a country that hates the US you're automatically branded :cia: by certain users of this this website.

[-] AssadCurse@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

https://twitter.com/presstv/status/1571443011816415232?s=46&t=vrblq8WEnUVQSbGilsPb1Q

It’s not just “something negative” it’s an entirely made-up narrative, right at a crucial moment in geopolitics

This is trot behavior and reeks of chauvinism

[-] Commander_Data@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

And you're pushing CIA supplied crisis actors in Iran of all places. I'm a trot, I'm an anarcho-bidenist, I'm a chauvinist, but at least I'm not on some Alex Jones level conspiracy bullshit.

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm usually those users lol, but Iran's protests just seem like the result of a conservative society with unaccountable cops, rather than the color revolution some are calling it

[-] Commander_Data@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

Yeah, the young woman who died was Kurdish, the protests started in Kurdistan, and the Kurds will happily revolt against the Ayatollah without any help from the CIA. Frankly, the hexbear line that any antipathy towards a regime unfriendly to the US must be due to outside influence is pretty dismissive of the agency of oppressed people.

[-] AssadCurse@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

any antipathy towards a regime unfriendly to the US must be due to outside influence is pretty dismissive of the agency of oppressed people

Why aren’t you considering the lived experience of Miami Cubans and the Falun Gong? It’s pretty dismissive to the agency of oppressed people. You privileged white leftists should stop talking over POC :fedposting:

[-] Commander_Data@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

Everything that ever happened was done by the CiA, I am very smart.

[-] AssadCurse@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Nope, but made up narratives that incite civil unrest in our enemies almost certainly involve CIA and US empire media perpetuating them

[-] Commander_Data@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

Yes. A healthy 20 year old woman dies from COVID, a deep cover CIA asset bribes her family to say her body was bruised and manages to orchestrate near country wide protests is definitely the most likely scenario. You've cracked the code! Fucking CommAnon is real.

[-] AssadCurse@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

People die randomly from medical ailments all time, even young healthy people.

Then western aligned comprador media groups and NGOs all get ahold of the random death and start to weaponize it for their own agenda.

Western mainstream media picks it up and perpetuates it.

CIA calls in their favors with all their assets within Iran to start pushing discontent.

It’s not that complicated, it’s what happened in Hong Kong. You sound like a credulous liberal

[-] Commander_Data@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

You sound like :alex-no-supplements:

[-] Mrtryfe@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Sounding like Alex Jones is when you consider American foreign policy since the turn of the 19th century

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

True there's a tendency to oversimplify overseas domestic conflict, and also that exact line, about the denying the agency of chosen dissenters has been specifically weaponized to give cover for regime change ops, most recently, to my recollection, in Bolivia and Cuba. You're still correct imo in this case

[-] AssadCurse@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

How are they correct in a case that’s literally made up? Video evidence shows she collapses due to a medical reason and there was no evidence of police brutality.

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

It would rule so much if the US had put in all this effort to fuck with Iran only to have it become a socialist state after all and ally with China.

[-] AssadCurse@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

They are allied with China and Russia currently already, or rather on extremely friendly and military-cooperative terms. America’s worst fear of all their victims combining into a solid bloc against them instead of separate, isolated nations is coming to pass already. America bungled it massively by attacking China and Russia at the same time with hybrid war, while also destroying the Iran deal. They should have picked one or two of them to destroy at a time while cozying up to the others, but it seems the imperialist ideologues at the wheel have no restraint

[-] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Would actually hope for that if I didn't know that the Islamists had so effectively liquidated the Communist movement.

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

Yeah... The Americans got what they wanted.

[-] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Err, kinda. Iran is still as aligned against America and with its rivals as if it were a socialist nation. But while the US decided at some point that they value Iran more as an MIC-justifying bogeyman than a friend (them ripping up the Iran Deal), it's coming back to bite them in the ass with the rise of the opposing pole.

Then again, maybe we're ascribing too much rational thought to the American ruling class, since it's apparent that even they don't know what the fuck they want.

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago

That's kind of what the us wanted though, a bogeyman to justify militarism, to prevent the spread of socialism, and to prevent the region from unifying

[-] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

The US wanted to prevent the spread of socialism because it threatened the interests of the American ruling class. Now, they pushed Iran towards the opposing pole with China at the helm, a socialist country to boot.

So yeah, it succeeded at justifying militarism and destabilizing the Middle East, but not liquidating Iran as a threat.

[-] AssadCurse@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The US actually wants strong enemies opposing it. That’s why is you are anti-US, you should also oppose the American’s enemies. American imperialism will end once it rules the Earth completely unopposed with no strong enemies.

:very-intelligent:

Can’t wait to hear the next mental gymnastics westerners come up with to avoid their revolutionary defeatist duty

this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2022
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