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Oh hey I just finished reading that, wasn't the first time I read it but I needed to read it again. Now I'm going to read Reform or Revolution by Rosa Luxemburg, I heard it in audobook format but I'm not good at absorbing complex stuff by audio, I need text.

Get her to read "Left wing Communism an Infantile Disorder" by Lenin

It's not so much the medium itself as it is the content of that medium, in a Capitalist system it will be contaminated with the various toxins of that system, sometimes very deliberately.

In a healthy system, like one of the stages of socialism for example, it is far easier for it to be made healthy, will be increasingly encouraged to do so, and if it's too toxic it may even get the axe.

What's the point of posting the rage bait of reactionaries, we know liberals have been indoctrinated their whole lives to slander communism and clean the image of capitalism, what's the point in stewing in it? I don't really understand the board itself either, why would people want to sit there and just be angry at how wrong liberals are instead of trying to find a way to do something about it, to find a way to help change the conditions into one were people aren't so misinformed, even just in the form of trying to get throw to people and explain that communists aren't horrible murders but the heroes that saved people from the fascism of capitalism.

Just being angy and stewing in the big mad doesn't really help.

Ooof, this thread sure got spicy, sometimes it is important to remind ourselves we all want a better world. Peace and love, friends, allies, and Comrades! 🐱 💖

Please, take a deep breath in and slowly breath it out, non of us are enemies, it isn't worth getting so heated over some podcasters, Comrade.

Edit: just noticed this post was 7 hours ago, might have been pointless to post this, whatevs.

I agree with you and did mean to come off as saying revolution was totally guaranteed, I might have been caught up in the need to demonstrate optimism such that I didn't make it fully clear, the same conditions that disillusion and make it easier for us to reach people and not just get ignored, also serves reaction and help them make new fascists, so we can't afford to slow in our own efforts, we need to reach as many as can be reached before things get too bad, for the best chances.

Edit: "didn't mean", typo

Chinese news: hey, US, if you do this thing it'll backfire and hurt you, maybe don't do that. US: You're not the boss of me! "Does thing" "hurts self" US: I just didn't do it hard enough! "Does thing more" "hurts self more"

It's very funny to watch. Very "tis but a flesh wound" kind of energy.

It's the accumulation of a quantity before the point in which a transformation in quality occurs, the conditions are growing more favorable for actual Socialism, and as more burn out on fake "socialism" they will be more receptive to the real deal. Behind the growth of "socialism" there are Marxist Leninists slipstreaming to catch those thrown off the "socialist" bus by disillusionment.

It's not a binary, "is" or "isn't" thing, the socdems represent the fear of the ruling class to appease the masses and cool revolutionary energy before it boils over, they are a weather vein that is showing that the winds are changing direction.

There are more decades in weeks ahead of us, even if the pendulum sometimes swings back to weeks in decades. (or at least seemingly)

This also demonstrates why the Capitalists (those who hold Capital) are so out of touch with humanity as a whole, they are the closest to their god, Capital, than anyone else, and thus are it's greatest personification of it's nature. It's very embodiment of alienation, seeing everything within the binary view of "those that exploit" and the "cattle to be exploited". And yet at the same time they are not really in charge, they are puppets to their god, Capital, this thing that isn't sentient, isn't even alive, but that has rules, rules that they too are forced to follow lest they become "lowly cattle" like the rest of us, and the closer they are to Capital, the further from humanity they become and may even see it's loss as a "fate worse than death".

And so from their twisted view, a billion people, "cattle", dead, is a small price to pay if it can even give them just a small chance of staying close to Capital, and protecting it against the rebellion of humanity casting off it's yoke. Making us Communists, who seek to free humanity, and who has the tools to do so, it's greatest enemy.

Of course we Communists know that the seeds of a systems destruction exists within that very system, and that the death, one way or another, of that system is inevitable, as nothing is eternal, but for the Capitalists who are closest to Capital, seeing the death of the system the same as if it was their own death, and who have little connection with humanity for which they are so a odds with, see it's death as the death of everything, as it is all they hold dear, all that matters to them, and so terror drives them to mythology, to see Capitalism as eternal, or at least as something they can make eternal, to keep the reality of it's loss at bay. It is also why when it is collapsing they get more and more unhinged, they are checking themselves out from reality as they get more desperate, as it becomes harder to deny reality, they must insulate themselves from it further.

Edit: I think that maybe existence itself would be the one exception from nothing being eternal, as actual nothingness can't exist as it is completely self contradictory at the most basic, conceptual level, meaning you can't get something from nothing, and that means that anything that does exist must have derived from something else that exists or existed. It's that basic physics law of "energy cannot be created or destroyed, only changed from one form to another", that some form or another of "existence" must have always existed, but the forms within it change and aren't eternal, and with humans being entirely the result of the configuration of atoms in a certain pattern, as a result of a long, slow, stupid process of evolution, and thus also not eternal. However, humans don't exist alone, but as a whole with the conditions of the universe itself, so we pass on knowledge to our children, and eventually uncover the nature of reality, IE "advance science" and so eventually travel amongst the stars, do what would have been thought impossible before, because a thing is greater then the sum of it's parts as it's configuration enables it to do things that those parts could not do alone, humanity across generations do things no single human could before even have dreamed of.

Edit Edit: Or maybe I should say "energy" rather than "existence", but things are getting a little removed from the concert here, and I don't have a deep enough understanding of physics to go deeper so maybe I should stop.

My hope is to be able to join the PSL (U.S. based Marxist Leninist party, short for Party for Socialism and Liberation) properly someday (rather than just donating and watching webinars as a part of the Action Network). For now I have a lot of mental and physical health issues I'm working to overcome, with the Social Anxiety being my biggest obstacle to actually going out and touching organized, revolutionary grass.

Part of understanding Dialectical Materialism is in understanding that the small but growing thing (if properly protected so that it can continue to grow) rather than the big but crumbling thing, represents the future. And it is from this that Revolutionary Optimism is born, as the seeds of a given systems destruction and replacement exist within it's own contradictions, and is grown through the growth of those vary contradictions. Revolutionary Optimism isn't blind optimism, it isn't just having "faith" in it, but is actually a thing of reason, as the small but growing thing starts small, but doesn't stay small, the big but crumbling thing is big but doesn't stay big, the contradictions get worse and the seemingly impossible Revolution becomes inevitable. This dialectic exists in the Revolution itself as well, gorilla warfare involve taking the supplies, weapons and ammo ETC of the enemy such as to support it's growth, and in this way it grows while the state shrinks, until eventually the Revolution begins switching to conventional warfare and operates as a new state that slowly replaces the old state.

The depression you speak of isn't from Dialectical Materialism itself, but rather from awareness, Dialectical Materialism can grow an awareness (though it isn't the only way to become aware of the horrors of the system), but also within Dialectical Materialism exists it's solution, to the root cause of the depression that is the very oppression itself.

Dialectical and Historical Materialism is an irreplaceable and vital tool for achieving the cure. (Revolution) Once you start you cannot stop, only partial understanding leads to errors, of which certain ones, or too many, can be fatal, and every opportunity to put it into Practice, to actually use it, is vital as the Theory can only be properly understood through it's application to Practice, otherwise you risk slipping into ultra-leftism and/or utopian thinking.

You need to not only read the philosophy, economics, and history in general (though you still need that too), but it is also important to read about the actual successes, as within those works is the experience of those Comrades who actually succeeded, which can also help with Revolutionary Optimism both by showing how it can be done, but in showing that it can succeed even in the most hopeless of circumstances if we Communists play our cards right.

If you find yourself depressed, you might want to look at what you are reading, if you are reading too many depressing works that go over all the horrible things that happen, then maybe you should counter balance that by reading of the victories of the past and current Socialist countries that actually achieved some stage of Socialism.