[-] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

You've fallen prey to one of the oldest laws of the internet, which states that the quickest way to get an answer to something is to post the wrong answer and wait for someone to correct you.

It's called Murphy's Law.

[-] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Well Israel is a settler-colonial project propped up by a global military empire who wants a military ally/outpost in the middle east, and that settler-colonial project is ripping people out of their homes to give land to settlers.

Palestinians are the ones getting ripped out of their homes, having legal rights stripped away from them, and ultimately being corralled into what are fenced-in, open air concentration camps as Israel continues expanding its borders. This is what has resulted in conditions like what we see in Gaza, which is currently one of the highest population density places on earth as a result of Palestinians having more and more of their land colonized and the families who weren't murdered in ethnic cleansing campaigns had to live closer and closer together as they were driven out of their homes. And as more and more people keep getting shoved into smaller and areas of land as Israel closes its borders in more and more via military occupation, Israel uses its control of the land surrounding these settlements to restrict food, medicine, and electricity from getting to Palestinians. Gaza usually only gets 4 hours of electricity every day despite living in an arid climate where not having air conditioning can result in death from heat stroke on particularly hot days. ~95% of the water in Gaza is not safe to drink, so death from starvation and dehydration are both incredibly common. And with extremely limited access to medical resources, very few people live to/past middle age, with the average age in Gaza currently sitting around 19 years old. Living conditions are so bad that suicidality among children is incredibly common, with over half of people under 18 reporting that they have no will to live when surveyed. And when Israel is not expanding its borders and settling more land, it preys on the desperation of the Palestinian people who have had their lives ripped away from them by employing them for cheap labor to make the lives of the settlers more comfortable. Those are the Palestinians who also have citizenship in Israel so that they can work in Israel, but even with citizenship they are second-class citizens without access to most political and legal rights.

Israelis don't have any particular reason to hate Palestinians, they're just doing what every settler-colony does and they keep experiencing blowback from the people they are colonizing. All of the propaganda about thousands of years of Holy War over a Holy Land is just a founding mythos used to obscure this colonizer/colonized relationship by pretending that these are two groups on equal standing that are bickering with each other because they just can't get along.

[-] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

There was a recent campaign by the government to reduce the amount of homework for children

It's nice to see Xi reaching across the aisle to find unity with the anarchists

[-] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Two and a half hours.

It takes them approximately the length of one marvel movie to jump on board with the new thing.

[-] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I still think we should have named the site lib.rehab

[-] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I guess I just don't understand what end you hope to achieve by policing people having a positive response to resistance against genocide and colonization.

Are you just hoping to extol the virtues of stoicism?

Because the point you keep trying to make over and over again is "you shouldn't be happy, do you know that resisting oppression will actually incite even more oppression?"

Which is barely half a step away from a general defeatist attitude. Your position is basically "You're allowed to show support, but remember to couch it in extreme pessimism about the hopelessness of ever changing the world for the better." With friends like that, who needs enemies?

I just don't understand why that's the hill you're choosing to die on. The most charitable interpretation I have is that you just picked a bad position to defend, and you need to stop trying to post through it

[-] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I fail to see how getting it over with in one mass slaughter is an improvement.

I'm failing to see how your concern trolling is particularly relevant to the question of whether or not we should be expressing support for Palestinian resistance.

Your protestations can basically be summed up as "I know what's best for the Palestinians and their resistance better than they know themselves. Our job as distant observers should not be to support the decisions that those resisting oppression have made, we should instead concern ourselves with armchair quarterbacking and second guessing them out of an abundance of caution that we might end up backing the wrong horse and get egg on our faces."

You don't seem to be in possession of any specialized knowledge that would make you a higher authority on matters of strategy and tactics than the people actually organizing a resistance movement who have access to all the same information that you do plus an entire life of living in those conditions and an intimate familiarity with the on the ground reality. This isn't a rogue group doing some adventurism, this is an effort organized across several different Palestinian resistance groups who will have already discussed the exact concerns you're bringing up before committing to a joint plan of action.

I'll listen to your concerns about whether there is a more effective strategy for resistance once you are the one putting your life on the line. In the mean time, I'm going to assume that the people who are actually living through that struggle have a better grasp on their situation than I do, and I'm not going to treat it like it's my job to second guess them.

[-] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

You seem to be incredibly hung up on this idea of celebration, but most of what you're attacking are messages of support.

[-] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

For /c/capitalismindecay, the most that you need to do is accept the principle that the Axis was worse than the U.S.S.R., which sounds obvious and trivial to us but can be surprisingly difficult for some people.

Problem is you are fighting against stuff like the Double Genocide Theory, which was literal nazi propaganda made to muddy the water and "both sides" the actual Holocaust, and even though that propaganda wasn't even remotely credible when it was published it has since been reheated and served up as Cold War propaganda that was repeated so often that it's just "common sense" at this point.

And part of what makes atrocity propaganda so effective is that once people buy into it it is filled with thought-terminating clichés that are built in which makes challenging that narrative difficult.

[-] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Your mistake is thinking that people who use the word tankie have any kind of consistent definition, or even understand the politics of the person they're name-calling.

It used to refer to a very specific incident where Khrushchev sent in tanks to suppress unrest. Anyone who supported that decision was called a tankie.

Now it just means "person on the left that I don't like." Trots are tankies, anarchists are tankies, Joe Biden is a tankie. The word doesn't mean anything.

[-] ferristriangle@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

My beloved Parenti quotes

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