Permacomputing

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Computing to support life on Earth

Computing in the age of climate crisis is often wasteful and adds nothing useful to our real life communities. Here we try to find out how to change that.

Definition and purpose of permacomputing: http://viznut.fi/files/texts-en/permacomputing.html

Permacomputing XMPP Chat

Sister community over at lemmy.sdf.org: !permacomputing@lemmy.sdf.org

There's also a wiki: https://permacomputing.net/

Website: http://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/permacomputing.html

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I’m new to the community and a relatively new programmer, as well. I’m very comfortable with C and the command line. But, do I need to start studying Forth to really contribute?

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Hi, I have access to a decent amount of ewaste through my time volunteering at my local free stuff Swap Shop and I've been thinking about turning some old computers and monitors into displays for my local bus routes. The city transit system already has a website that shows the position of all the buses on each route, I just need to some sort of kiosk OS that'll display it reliably and pull it back up after getting rebooted.

The idea is to make sure they're reliable and offer them on my local free groups to anyone with a window, apartment or storefront, near a bus stop. So they'd be indoors, sheltered, and connected through whatever Wi-Fi is available at each location.

We get all kinds of stuff, from chromebooks to those PC/monitor combos, old laptops, and tons of screens. So whatever your recommendation is, chances are I'll get access to something suitable eventually.

What I'm looking for is recommendations for the software, probably a kiosk OS, that can be set up to just display a website (possibly two instances of it tiled side by side of the stop serves more than one route). It'll probably need to refresh it occasionally and it'll definitely need to snap back into the same display mode after losing power. The goal is something reliable, as close to set-and-forget as I can probably get kludging this together from ewaste and FOSS.

So far folks have recommended Wayland Compositors like Cage Kiosk and ChromeOS kiosk mode. If you have any strong feelings on alternatives or other ways if doing things, please let me know! Thanks!

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Just in case people haven't heard of it before - I found it today after reading the logs of a virtual meetup of permacomputing folks (https://tilia.lurk.org/)

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What would you do with this old PC if you had €0 to invest in it?

I have an older desktop sitting around with:

  • AMD FX-6100, 6 cores at 3.3 GHz
  • NVIDIA GeForce GT 730
  • 24 GB RAM
  • ASRock 970 Extreme R2.0 motherboard
  • One SSD and one HDD

It still works, but I currently have no money to upgrade it or turn it into an ambitious homelab project.

I am trying to decide what would be the most useful and least wasteful thing to do with it.

A few possibilities I have considered:

  • Install a lightweight Linux distribution and use it for experiments
  • Turn it into a local server, NAS, self-hosting box, or automation playground
  • Use it to learn more about local AI, although I assume the GT 730 is far too limited for most modern models
  • Keep it until I have money for a few upgrades
  • Sell it cheaply and put the money towards a newer, more energy-efficient machine

My main concern with using it as a server is electricity consumption. Keeping an older FX-based desktop running all day might cost more, both financially and environmentally, than the practical value it provides.

What would you do in my situation?

Are there any genuinely useful €0 experiments this hardware is still suitable for? Is it worth keeping, or would selling it or reusing the parts elsewhere be the more sensible choice?

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Creator of the PDA's website here: https://orionpda.org/

More up to date video of improved prototype (without the computer voice)

Thought this was quite an interesting little device, particularly it's screen has a much higher refresh-rate than e-ink, but with similar power-draw, allowing it to play video quite well (in black and white), and potentially making it an interesting platform to develop apps or games for.

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I'm interested in finding out what people think when they see something GNU. What do you associate with it? Do you tend to be more or less interested in the project if.it is GNU or not? What is your perspective?

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@permacomputing@slrpnk.net @permacomputing@lemmy.sdf.org
My latest article on trying to come up with a strategic, lightweight, highly portable, cross-platform, #C and #C++ #GUI framework that works well on a number of operating systems: https://lmemsm.dreamwidth.org/33030.html
#FOSS #FreeSoftware #OpenSource #OS

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@permacomputing@slrpnk.net @permacomputing@lemmy.sdf.org I'm trying to connect with other people who might be interested in building all the programs they use on their operating systems from source code (sort of like a Linux From Scratch but the OS doesn't necessarily have to be Linux). I'm interested in C/C++ programs and reproducible builds. Do you know of any good ways to connect with others who have similar interests? #permacomputing #retrocomputing

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I'd like your expert advice. My old smartphone is about to kick the bucket, and I can't wait to finally let go of the tiny depression rectangle for ever. How can I keep using OTP and 2FA services when on a dumb phone? I expect that with time I will manage to limit the use of services that require this kind of stuff, but can't at the moment. I don't use my smartphone for much, so I don't expect to run into much trouble, but is there anything else I might be forgetting apart from authentication issues? I'll speak to my bank to see what they offer besides 2FA and app - I'm sure they have something since it's a bank for farmers and old rural folk.

Btw I have been enjoying my collapse lately, as so much over-engineered stuff just starts failing and encourages a retreat to more simple solutions. I'll do my part by ditching the surveillance box.

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Gemini the HTTP alternative, not the AI crap.

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If you bought your computer after 2010, there's most likely no reason to throw it out. By just installing an up-to-date Linux operating system you can keep using it for years to come.

The cheapest and most environmentally-friendly computer is the one you already own.

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ed was based on using the teletype – the “persistent display” was the paper itself

What I really love is that when the teletype has finished printing off his little diary, Rex can simply tear it off and walk away, keeping it in his pocket, put on his wall. It’s produced a little physical artifact for him to carry around.

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Hi I'm have a 20 year old laptop and every time I turn it on it has reset the clock and date to 2001 or whatever and I have to set it again before I can do anything. I haven't used it that often in recent years. Is there some part i could replace to get this working.

Also in general, is there other maintenance I should do to keep it working?

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Valmond@lemmy.world to c/permacomputing@slrpnk.net
 
 

Hi everyone, I'm Valmond and I'm working on a decentralised sharing network based on reciprocity.

It's working but I haven't found a place where to showcase it/find followers/interested people. Would a decentralised, secure, FOSS, sharing system ; you share what ever you want with whom you want by sharing back, well would that kind of idea have a place here?

Cheers

Valmond

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